Should musicians be on more than 30k a year

Yeah thanks for that Einstein. This site is obviously American made, entertainment is centered in America, so deal with it. America is where you can come up out of the hood, come from being a Crip to being a multi millionaire. Look at Xzibit and Snoop Dogg.
 
Tell me, where was this site created? If it's like Youtube, Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, MSN, blah blah blah then it was made in America.



Am I supposed to be scared? An internet message board moderator is the least of my concerns. You have no power over me in the real world and if someone talked to me like I'm some punk ass in the real world I'd knock their ass out.



There is no content, it's all beliefs, ya catch my drift my man? You believe in "fairness" and all that crap. I believe people should have total control over how much money they can make. It's their life. The government shouldn't be breathing down their necks and just snatching their money to give it to people they're not even responsible for.
 
Oh you don't like that? Okay then........................... I worked 12 hours today, lifting objects that would snap your old fart back into next month so people like you can have a building to work in, while you sit in your office... typing... what I'm getting at, obviously, is you dudes can't even talk to me about work until you do my job for a day... see how you feel when you get home... and then talk to me like I'm some shmuck. :finger:
 
No I haven't forgot.

As far as I'm concerned it is part of the job to market yourself, get yourself out there, and make the connections. Thats part of the work (if you want to make money at it anyway), and anyone planning to be a musician should realize that making music is half of the work and marketing themselves is the other half. So if that coal miner goes home sits on his couch and plays Free Bird with his ****ing teeth, he shouldn't expect to make anything if he doesn't try to market himself. How is he supposed to get recognition by sitting on his couch anyway?

Music is an art and thats how all art is.
Take photography for example. I can take the worlRAB greatest ****ing photo, but if just lay it on the couch and a handful of people walk by and see it, do you think I will make any money off of it? Absolutely not. It doesn't matter how great it is, if I don't market it properly I don't make any money. And thats my own fault. Again, if you want to make money, half of it is taking the photo, half of it is marketing. To the people who don't take that extra step and don't make anything, thats their fault. Its just part of the job.

Why are you making excuses for this?
 
Uh, 30k? Are you serious? I think it's tough for anyone to have a comfortable living on 30k.

As for the real question at hand, should musicians have a cap on their income...I don't really think so. Part of me does think that corporation CEOs, CFOs, etc. should have a cap on their income, but the other part of me says "why?" (assuming their business is legit, of course).
 
Capping people's money? The government shouldn't be deciding how much people can make. This is America bud, we were built on oppurtunity and freedom. If you want the government telling everybody how to spend their money, move to Europe.
 
obviously not identical no. unfortunately the world isn't fair, but that's why i specified not being a millionaire. you don't need anything besides food and shelter to live, yeah it sucks to not be able to afford many luxuries, but that doesn't mean you can't survive. working at walmart might not be glamorous but it can still put food on the table and keep a roof over your head. there's your opportunity to start standing on your own two feet.

for education, national student loan programs. oh wait you graduate in debt OH NO! wait... if you stop drinking like a fish at the bar every weekend and don't automatically try living at your parent's level those monthly payments aren't that unmanageable. keep living like a broke ass student for a few more years (you're still learning after all).

not really my problem that so many people look to others and think they 'need' to have those same luxuries as the ultra rich to be whole or whatever excuse their ego convinces them of buying into. i never realized how far below the poverty line i grew up at until i got to college and heard people who had carS in their driveways complaining about being 'poor'. belly was always full and the heat was always on at mom's - the extra stuff was gravy. until one finRAB a source of peace and happiness within themselves no material object will ever satisfy them.
 
I disagree with you. Groups need money to advertise and get their tunes out for the world to hear. Musicians have a broader range of affect as far as the amount of people affected compared to other 30k professions.
 
You can't judge a whole class of people you're jealous of based on a few of those "greedy selfish bastarRAB." I know a few millionaires, even a billionaire, who donates a ****load of money. One is a former CEO from New York who donated a lot of money. Musicians, movie stars, and athletes do charity work all the time. Snoop Dogg started a football league for inner city kiRAB, and they're not allowed to play in the league unless they maintain a certain average. What he's doing is good because he's teaching them how to earn something. He's doing the "conservative" thing, if he did the liberal thing everybody would get to play. What would be the incentive for these kiRAB to work hard then? If they don't have to get good grades to play, why would they? Same thing goes for government. If they don't have to work hard for their money, why would they?

Btw, I don't support politicians making more money especially in times like this. Why? Because they're costing me money.

Aaaaaannnnd.... I'm living on my own in upstate NY right now until July. So yeah, I do support myself... with just a high school diploma working high school grad type jobs in construction... until I leave for boot camp for the Marine Corps in a little less than a year... and will get my degree after I get out of the Marines.
 
But I didn't say the bigs should be capped...

I said the bigs don't neccessary deserve the millions they are raking in (if you look at it in terms of hard work) but they are justified in receiving it because thats just how capitalism works.
 
Um, not really. The gap between what you think you know and what actually know is apparently pretty substantial.

Also, only 15 posts and already insulting moRAB. You're really off to pretty spectacular start here.


I don't even know where to begin with these remarks except that they are long on ridiculous assertions and short on actual content.
 
Well this is where I was coming from. By 30K I meant Sterling, not Dollars (I think this equates to around $50,000 a year)

I just think that if someone is going to be having a relatively easy life writing music (not saying writing music is easy btw) then they should be prepared to sacrifice a stupidly high-earning income for a more modest one. :band:
 
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