Shark's Fin Ban

On 4/2/2011 11:47 AM, J. Clarke wrote:



Why would you ever support/advocate cruelty to ANYTHING?

Every animal and plant has its place in the biome. When any species
becomes scarce or extinct it leaves a vacuum which eventually gets
filled with someting perhaps less desirable from a human's point of
view. It also leaves a gap in the food chain/web.

Do you remember the ad that went "It's not nice to fool with Mother
Nature"? There's a lot of truth there.

gloria p
 
On 4/2/2011 1:18 PM, aem wrote:

I've never had it, just as I have never had bird's nest soup. Perhaps
someone can tell me if either tastes good. The process of gathering
shark's fins does seem barbarous even if I've no liking at all for sharks.

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James Silverton, Potomac

I'm "not"
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[email protected] says...

Cancer usually doesn't affect humans until long after they have
reproduced, so it's not going to have much effect on population.

It's becoming a dominant killer because we've figured out how to deal
with all the stuff that used to kill us before cancer got us.
Eventually cancer will fall too. Then we'll die of something else.
 
"aem" wrote in message
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Sharks are being driven to extinction and some species have declined 90
percent. Sharks are vital to ocean ecology. Just ask Japanese fishermen
who are being driven into bankruptcy because of massive overpopulations of
jellyfish. Jellyfish are a prime source of food for sharks. No sharks,
more jellyfish, less fish. Sharks have survived virtually unchanged for
over 500 million years and now they face extinction as an ingredient in a
bowl of soup.

Paul
 
"James Silverton" wrote in message
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You don;t have to like them but their role in the ocena environment is
critical. Without them you'd not even recognize the oceans anymore. And
you'd certainly not be able to count on it as a food resource.

Paul
 
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FWIW, it's my experience that people who see violence as a solution to
any problem other than as an intervention to stop another ongoing act of
violence generally have little experience of it.

I don't see "the deceased did something politically incorrect" as being
a valid defense to a charge of murder.
 
Bryan wrote:


You just said that you'd violate the juror's oath. How can you make that
statement and then get indignant when someone discusses your integrity, or
lack thereof?

Bob
 
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 16:00:38 -0400, James Silverton
wrote:


Bird's Nest Soup just gags me when I think of it. Sure, give me a next
of nasty old twigs and stuff, saturated with bird poop and
who-knows-what, and then I'll make soup from it.

Eck! I'd just as soon use a used toilet bowl for a soup tureen. It's
about the same thing! Gag-me-out!

Not to mention the cost!
 
Omelet wrote in news:ompomelet-D9ADEA.21431502042011
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We don't have shark steaks over here, just 'flake' fillets, battered,
crumbed, or grilled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flake_(fish)


Or.... you do what a Lebo import called Maky Mumbanger does and BBQ them
with to have with 'selsa' and aspara*guess*.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM5StXoodv4


--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

Nothing ever truely dies
the Universe wastes nothing
everything is simply... transformed
 
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT), Bryan
wrote:


Holy Crap Bryan! You'd allow a murderer to go free because the person
he murdered killed a shark?

I think your principles are skewed, but you'd probably think mine
were.

How about if someone killed a member of your family for killing a
Tuna? Would you let that person go free? Or a Salmon. Or for plucking
a tomato from the vine?

Or for killing a cow! Or a pig! You know lots of people don't like
meat killers. They think its barbaric. They could go free if someone
killed their killers too, right?

Jeeeeez fella!
 
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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:


It is said the Chinese will eat anything with four legs that is not a
chair, and anything from the sea that is not a submarine.

They are a far more sensible people than many of us Westerners in that
regard.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases
 
"James Silverton" wrote in message
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How does one species change to escape predation so massive that it exceeds
their ability to reproduce? They're stuck in a rut of being killed before
they can even grow big enough to reproduce? We've only been destroying them
like this for about 3 decades and it takes a hell of a lot longer to
"evolve." Sharks have survived every mass extinction including the one that
wiped out the dinosaurs and now they are being fished into extinction. Your
dismissive attitude only reveals your deep ignorance. Nobody needs shark
fin soup. The whole world needs sharks and what they do to maintain healthy
oceans which is where a lot of food comes from.

Paul
 
"James Silverton" wrote

They have no reason to change. They have a place in the eco-system and food
chain and do their work well. Sad if they go away as the oceans will be
screwed up. Should they evolve and no longer grow fins?

Anyone that kills a useful fish just for a fin should evolve a bit more.
 
"gloria.p" wrote in message
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The loss of sharks is also leading to massive losses in food industries such
as shellfish because sharks eat the species that eat the shellfish and keep
them in check. It does not take a lot of imagination to see that without
sharks the oceans will be a very changed place and not one for the better.
We demand so much from the sea and yet we do nothing to protect it even if
doing so protects us.

Paul
 
Omelet wrote in news:ompomelet-FCC2CB.22265502042011
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I had 'paddy rat' in Bali. Done on a stick, and roasted over charcoal...
quite nice.

The SO and the kids were a bit suss when we first got them, and then they
looked out the window and saw Mamasan preparing them, and nearly spewed
:-)

It's a meat source, and local food.


--
Peter Lucas
Hobart
Tasmania

Nothing ever truely dies
the Universe wastes nothing
everything is simply... transformed
 
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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For those to dismiss the eradication of a entire genus from irresponsible
predation by human beings in the name of "evolution" is perhaps the greatest
form of denial I can think of. There is nothing natural about what we are
doing. And we are doing it so fast nature has no mechanisms to compensate.
This is not just a natural progression, it is a massacre. It will have dire
consequences for the planet and for everyone who relies on the oceans for
food.

Paul
 
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:30:23 -0700, "Paul M. Cook"
wrote:


I honestly don't understand why the same laws that protected the whale
are not implemented for sharks.

Can you explain that to me?
 
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