Sex, Lies and Oil Spills

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Damn, I didn't know they didn't have acoustics on their BOPs. When did this come out? I work on a rig in Brazil and we have an acoustics system. They are function tested, but I doubt they have been real life blowout scenario tested ever before. On our rig the subsea engineer is responsible for grabbing the acoustic transmitter and bring it to the lifeboats. That way we can function everything from a lifeboat in the water.

brb watching the 60 min. shit now.
 
Where have I said it would have prevented it? I agree that there were many fuckups, and one big one was that the government and the oil industry decided an extra form of protection wasn't necessary. It might have helped, it might not have, but we will never know. But would it have hurt BP, or the US Oil Industry that much to use another mechanism that might prevent this sort of catastrophe? It was a poor decision, and I assume there were many in order for something of this magnitude to occur.
 
Bullshit. Well, yeah, I do agree... but dont you think your country should require it in the first place?
 
Its definitely true that this rig did not have the remote acoustic shut off valve, and that this valve is required in Canada, the UK, and many other places.

Your government decided it wasn't necessary, because the oil/gas industry didn't want to have to pay for it.
 
would like to see what you post about it in the morning. for now, i have to sleep. seriously, VERY interested on your take.
 
Wow, pretty interesting videos. First of all, all I know about the incident are my own work experience, rumors from friends in the industry, a few news briefs, and these videos.

The ETs story really gets to me the most. My rig is very similar to the Deepwater Horizon, and I can imagine being in that position. When he describes the chunks of annular coming up, and found most likely by a shakerhand (guy that mans the machines that separate earth from drilling fluid much like a bunch of big ass gold mining sifts) I can tell you that that is a huge deal. They should have stopped there, but it seems they were under pressure from BP. Believe me operators are always under pressure, but that is no excuse to bypass safety regulations. Also the discussion about how to displacing the well (I think) is the most important part of this event. There is a procedure called a negative test on the wellhead that is NOT required by MMS (but probably soon will be) that should have been performed before exchanging seawater with drilling fluid. That test would give an indication if the well was flowing gases, and if it was safe to displace.

From the beginning I have thought that the only way this could have happened is if multiple things went wrong all at once, and if multiple people did not do what they should have been doing. I think these both happen to be the case. There seems to be a dozen factors that all contributed and could all have stopped the incident from happening. Also I think it is pretty amazing that all but the 11 people directly affected by explosions lived.
 
Speaking of logical fallacies...

"Well you can't prove that having a fire department would have prevented your house from burning down!"

Well no, of course not. Shit happens.

It's logical to assume that another layer of fail safe measures would have lowered the chances of this happening, though.
 
except there ARE people who are technically competent enough to be able to say that a lot of shit would have prevented it, and have.


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Nobody knows whether it would have helped or not.

Nobody even knows if the acoustic switches WORK in real world situations.

Yet because many countries implement them, "they must be proven."

Many countries wage a war against drugs as well, does that mean that works too?
 
FUCK YES. That's my whole point. Fuck the Bush administration for not demanding it. Fuck the Obama administration for not demanding it. The only good thing about this is making these things public knowledge now. No, I probably would have never researched this if this disaster didn't happen. But it did, and now I know, and now I'm pissed.
 
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