Sellouts

I will agree that Metallica is definitely one of the biggest sellouts. Their old shit is the best. They changed just to make everyone else happy and follow what everyone else was doing.

the new metallica
 
yeah but the big issue is that they sold out the punk culture, etc, and lost their sound because of it. I agree with you there, to a certain extent that after dookie, insomniac, they went more mainstream, and THAT is when they sold out...
 
Yes, maybe that is true. But by signing to a bigger label, they erased any doubts that they may have had about being underexposed. And for a while there, you couldn't listen to the radio or watch the TV without seeing something that their music was in or an advertisement for the music.
 
A7X was the shit, thier still okay but I was flipping channels and I happen upon an MTV2 commericial that advertized A7X as in the running for best new band...WTF is that! Theyve been around for years! MTV teh gay
 
earlier i was listening to the first korn album, and figured i would throw their name into this thread

selftitled, and life is peachy were awsome, everything after that was sellout for sure

they go from stuff like blind and faggot, to twisted transister, that shit is wack
 
oh man, totally.
Look at the Napster BS.
It's like, dude, you're already a fucking millionaire, you drive a bentley, your house is 5 times the size of an average home, and you're griping about money lost because people are raping your music off of the internet??

Personally, as a musician myself, I could really give a rats ass whether or not my music gets 'pirated' just because that's just further proof that I got my message across and people really understand where I'm coming from...
 
dookie may have been mainstream, but they didn't exploit their punk image as much then as they do now. they were obviously kiRAB having a good time making pop punk recorRAB, now they act like a goddamn punk u2 trying to save the world. fuck those guys.
 
Changing with the hopes of a bigger fan base is selling out, but what if people just change? A lot of the people in banRAB are young kiRAB, late teens, early twenties. They are still growing up and discovering themselves, so some changes may just be growing up.
 
Yeah more people should take the approach that radiohead takes, they dont give a fuck if people download their music. They say if people dont want to buy it, it's not good enough
 
hah how'd I know this would turn into a Metallica conversation?

There's a difference between being a rising band with limited exposure (most metal simply because it never gets radio time or big label attention) and wanting to get your shit out there via music downloaRAB. But those fucks have already made it big and still cry about the slightest infringement on their 'musical rights'. Fuck that I say, and fuck Lars.
 
Fuck Lars Indeed.
For a metal band, Metalica is nothing but a bunch of twinkle toed fairy fuckers now...

and I still listen to Master of Puppets every now and again
 
You're crazy. Switchfoot's Nothing Is Sound was great. Oh' Gravity, pretty good. Hello Hurricane is awesome, but it's not as hard hitting, but I can listen to all of these over and over again. I had to listen to both HH and NIS more than a few times to have it sink in. Pre-TBL was great too, but they evolve.
 
"selling out" has nothing to do with money. Every band, musician gets into it to hopefully make a living at it, if they say otherwise they're lying. Why not be able to do what you apparently love and get paid for it?

Or do you think every musician likes going hungry?
 
the first band that i got to experience go from small fan base to arena rock sellouts was Taking Back Sunday.their first album is still in my top 10 all time fave albums. the album was all about the music.their last album was overproduced, overhyped, and overrated. the artistry and originality took a back seat to the money they were pulling in once they went from small label (victory recorRAB) to big label (warner bros).
 
A lot of banRAB I know that upgraded labels basically fell into a trap. Some of them gained more popularity, while others made an album that in the end they regretted, especially if the fans totally rejected it.

IMO, labels are the biggest culprit. The larger labels seem to have a say in an album's writing, just as much as the artists themselves.
 
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