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Galaxia21
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I haven't seen it either. Cory watched it and liked it but he's :spineyes: I refused to watch it :lol:
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Sick Boy
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Yeah i got a copy of like 10 trailers for it and it looks like a B movie with a pulse. No big name stars in it really but am sure it will get the young crowd in the movies to see it.
Everyones raving about it, though.
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Clash181
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Double post.
Sorry.
Sorry.
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M.I.S.S.Y
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I loved Saw 2 but I really loved the twist in the third one where the test was really for Amanda...
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spent cigarette
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:bawl: MY pics are crap... I didn't know where to find 'em. :lol:
Here's two crappy ones, and I think one was posted pefore... so I basically suck.
Sigh. I'll search for more later. Hopefully some GOOD, freaky-ass ones.
Here's two crappy ones, and I think one was posted pefore... so I basically suck.
Sigh. I'll search for more later. Hopefully some GOOD, freaky-ass ones.
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The Daywalker
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Then he got shocked and made ya laugh more .
Awesome movie. I so wanted Monica to say "Larry, time is up" and then get her face blownoff and then the kid runs and whatever whatever. Unfortunately, the bitch lives.
Glover and Leung had no chemistry, always bickering but not in a Mertaugh/Riggs way, then Glover gets his throat cut and Leung just gets destroyed by those shotguns.
I'm glad the adam guy just gets stuck there to starve to death, and i wonder if Cary gets beaten to death by the Jigsaw killer or if he just bleeds to death. Either way, i love that everyone dies, cept the bitch, she needed to die.
Awesome movie. I so wanted Monica to say "Larry, time is up" and then get her face blownoff and then the kid runs and whatever whatever. Unfortunately, the bitch lives.
Glover and Leung had no chemistry, always bickering but not in a Mertaugh/Riggs way, then Glover gets his throat cut and Leung just gets destroyed by those shotguns.
I'm glad the adam guy just gets stuck there to starve to death, and i wonder if Cary gets beaten to death by the Jigsaw killer or if he just bleeds to death. Either way, i love that everyone dies, cept the bitch, she needed to die.
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Katie_Holmes
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I think saw 2 was the best
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capesidefan
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the movie looks like house of 1000 corpses, which will will never see
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Calmly Chaotic
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That's a great review. One of the best I've read.
I've never even heard of Cube, I think. :look:
I've never even heard of Cube, I think. :look:
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Clash181
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You guys are right.
October 29 isn't too far away...:look:...right?
It'll be alright and we'll tell you all about the movie when we see it. Heres a not so good review cause all I ever put are good ones. It's good to show diffrent POV's:
SCREENED AT THE 2004 SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL: The boys had been enthusiastic with their praise when they'd come home from the late night screening of Saw. "As good as May," said one. "Just awesome," said the other. Well then, if they're digging the flick that much, maybe I *should* get up at 8am next morning and catch the press screening... Now wait a minute, is this film that I'm watching the same Saw my buddies were talking about last night? Because, man, does this film blow.
The premise is great. Two men (Cary Elwes and Leigh Wannell) wake up chained to opposite ends of a dingy bathrooom. In the middle of the room lies a dead body with a gun and a tape recorder in his hands. What do you do?
From this role-playing game styled beginning, Saw takes a series of turns, most of them in a downward direction, that reveal the reason these two have been held captive, why they were targeted, and offers clues as to how they can escape. And you're there with it, reaady to be entertained, baffled and disgusted. Until people start talking, that is.
With a gritty style that isn't far removed from the oft-mentioned Nine Inch Nails videos that are oft-compared to the classic suspense thriller Se7en, Saw is the very epitome of what can now be done with a small budget and a great storyline, but there's something that has to go along with those two building blocks if you really want the movie to work. That something is called dialogue.
Written by co-star Leigh Wannell, Saw is a great example of a script written by someone who never actually spoke the words aloud as he was writing. Tell me this: if you found yourself chained to a wall, with a dead body just feet away, and another guy was chained to the other wall, would the first words you spoke be "I'm Lawrence Gordon... I'm a doctor"?
I mean, when you sit down next to someone on the bus, do you say "I'm Chris Parry... I'm a journalist"? Of course not. See, if I were in the same situation I'd say "Calm the hell down, man. I didn't chain you up, I'm chained myself. Who did this? Why are we here? Who's the dead guy? ARRRAGAH! Let me out!"
See, the key to a fine character piece, and that's really what Saw should have been, is to learn about the characters through their actions. If Lawrence is a doctor, you might give that away like this...
ADAM: Ouch, this chain is really cutting in deep.
LAWRENCE: Try to get some water on it and clean it up. You don't want to get gangrene.
ADAM: Shut up, I'm not going to get gangrene.
LAWRENCE: You will if you don't get that wound clean.
ADAM: How would you know?
LAWRENCE: Because I'm a doctor.
See, now in that quick scene you've established the pain of the character, the background of another, that the two of them don't trust each other, and it sounds realistic. But Wannell doesn't understand that, so he throws words in the mouths of his characters that don't sound natural coming out and reveal all too much, so as the dumbasses in the audience don't need to think.
Saw is violent, in a very tongue in cheek way that will get you to the edge of your seat, but it's also dumb, especially as it grinds towards a lame and predictable finish that will only really surprise you if you haven't been thinking for the first 4/5 of the movie. Small parts by Danny Glover, who has all of about eight lines and turns into a cartoon character that would have been best left on the cutting room floor, and Dina Meyer (who literally has no more than a dozen words in the film) make things all the more confusing.
But what really kicked my ass all the way through this film was just how terrible Cary Elwes' performance was. I'm not talking clumsy, I'm talking shockingly bad. Granted, the dialogue he's supposed to be speaking is one step above first year film school standard, but his weak performance goes even beyond that, turning what should have been a pivotal character into a ham and cheese on rye.
Has Elwes been doing too much work on the stage of late, or was the dialogue and internal characterization required of him here just too much for his traditionally light and fluffy talents to handle? Elwes is a fine Wesley, but when it comes to a man on the edge, he comes across sounding like Stewie on TV's The Family Guy.
"Curse the abominable hellspawn that manacled me to this malodorous bathroom fitting!"
Ultimately it could be suggested that Saw had been too hyped for me going in. Or maybe it had something to do with the horrific time of day I was supposed to see it. But in reality, I prefer to look upon it as simply a good low budget film shot down by a couple of factors that didn't have to stink. Replace the cast with people who can really pull off a dramatic turn (a la Requiem for a Dream), and replace the co-star screenwriter with someone who has earned their wings in the dialogue trade, and you could well have had a brilliantly nasty little moneymaker on your hands. Instead, what you have is a film that will please the blood buffs, mildly amuse the kiddies and make the adults go "puh-lease."
Saw the movie they mentioned at the beginning of this, May, and it was really good, very creepy. You guys should check that out, ignore this guy, and go see Saw anyway. He's just trying to be diffrent cause everyone else loves it.
October 29 isn't too far away...:look:...right?
It'll be alright and we'll tell you all about the movie when we see it. Heres a not so good review cause all I ever put are good ones. It's good to show diffrent POV's:
SCREENED AT THE 2004 SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL: The boys had been enthusiastic with their praise when they'd come home from the late night screening of Saw. "As good as May," said one. "Just awesome," said the other. Well then, if they're digging the flick that much, maybe I *should* get up at 8am next morning and catch the press screening... Now wait a minute, is this film that I'm watching the same Saw my buddies were talking about last night? Because, man, does this film blow.
The premise is great. Two men (Cary Elwes and Leigh Wannell) wake up chained to opposite ends of a dingy bathrooom. In the middle of the room lies a dead body with a gun and a tape recorder in his hands. What do you do?
From this role-playing game styled beginning, Saw takes a series of turns, most of them in a downward direction, that reveal the reason these two have been held captive, why they were targeted, and offers clues as to how they can escape. And you're there with it, reaady to be entertained, baffled and disgusted. Until people start talking, that is.
With a gritty style that isn't far removed from the oft-mentioned Nine Inch Nails videos that are oft-compared to the classic suspense thriller Se7en, Saw is the very epitome of what can now be done with a small budget and a great storyline, but there's something that has to go along with those two building blocks if you really want the movie to work. That something is called dialogue.
Written by co-star Leigh Wannell, Saw is a great example of a script written by someone who never actually spoke the words aloud as he was writing. Tell me this: if you found yourself chained to a wall, with a dead body just feet away, and another guy was chained to the other wall, would the first words you spoke be "I'm Lawrence Gordon... I'm a doctor"?
I mean, when you sit down next to someone on the bus, do you say "I'm Chris Parry... I'm a journalist"? Of course not. See, if I were in the same situation I'd say "Calm the hell down, man. I didn't chain you up, I'm chained myself. Who did this? Why are we here? Who's the dead guy? ARRRAGAH! Let me out!"
See, the key to a fine character piece, and that's really what Saw should have been, is to learn about the characters through their actions. If Lawrence is a doctor, you might give that away like this...
ADAM: Ouch, this chain is really cutting in deep.
LAWRENCE: Try to get some water on it and clean it up. You don't want to get gangrene.
ADAM: Shut up, I'm not going to get gangrene.
LAWRENCE: You will if you don't get that wound clean.
ADAM: How would you know?
LAWRENCE: Because I'm a doctor.
See, now in that quick scene you've established the pain of the character, the background of another, that the two of them don't trust each other, and it sounds realistic. But Wannell doesn't understand that, so he throws words in the mouths of his characters that don't sound natural coming out and reveal all too much, so as the dumbasses in the audience don't need to think.
Saw is violent, in a very tongue in cheek way that will get you to the edge of your seat, but it's also dumb, especially as it grinds towards a lame and predictable finish that will only really surprise you if you haven't been thinking for the first 4/5 of the movie. Small parts by Danny Glover, who has all of about eight lines and turns into a cartoon character that would have been best left on the cutting room floor, and Dina Meyer (who literally has no more than a dozen words in the film) make things all the more confusing.
But what really kicked my ass all the way through this film was just how terrible Cary Elwes' performance was. I'm not talking clumsy, I'm talking shockingly bad. Granted, the dialogue he's supposed to be speaking is one step above first year film school standard, but his weak performance goes even beyond that, turning what should have been a pivotal character into a ham and cheese on rye.
Has Elwes been doing too much work on the stage of late, or was the dialogue and internal characterization required of him here just too much for his traditionally light and fluffy talents to handle? Elwes is a fine Wesley, but when it comes to a man on the edge, he comes across sounding like Stewie on TV's The Family Guy.
"Curse the abominable hellspawn that manacled me to this malodorous bathroom fitting!"
Ultimately it could be suggested that Saw had been too hyped for me going in. Or maybe it had something to do with the horrific time of day I was supposed to see it. But in reality, I prefer to look upon it as simply a good low budget film shot down by a couple of factors that didn't have to stink. Replace the cast with people who can really pull off a dramatic turn (a la Requiem for a Dream), and replace the co-star screenwriter with someone who has earned their wings in the dialogue trade, and you could well have had a brilliantly nasty little moneymaker on your hands. Instead, what you have is a film that will please the blood buffs, mildly amuse the kiddies and make the adults go "puh-lease."
Saw the movie they mentioned at the beginning of this, May, and it was really good, very creepy. You guys should check that out, ignore this guy, and go see Saw anyway. He's just trying to be diffrent cause everyone else loves it.
I thought it was really entertaining, but it didn't really wow me (and I was so hoping it would)
The concept was very interesting and very different from any other serial killer movie I've seen.
But something was off, all the ingredients were there but for some reason it just didn't work for me
The 'shock ending' was a surprise but somehow not all that shocking.
The concept was very interesting and very different from any other serial killer movie I've seen.
But something was off, all the ingredients were there but for some reason it just didn't work for me
The 'shock ending' was a surprise but somehow not all that shocking.
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Clash181
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Heres another review and also a bump to my thread. Post away.
If I told you this one was "Seven" meets "Cube" by way of a Nine Inch Nails video (with a sprinkling of "The Silence of the Lambs" thrown in for flavor), you'd probably dismiss the movie as something less than unique or original, let alone brain-crackingly cool. In which case you might overlook "Saw", which is easily one of the most deliciously gruesome and addictively entertaining horror movies I've seen in years. Yes, I said years.
Two complete strangers awaken in a disgusting bathroom in the middle of god-knows-where. They're both chained by the ankles and escape seems quite impossible; but a handful of disturbing clues are left behind (not the least of which is a dead man with his brains blown out), and the pair quickly find themselves unraveling a collection of mysteries that are probably better left unmolested.
This is the opening scene of Saw, the brilliant new horror flick from first-time filmmakers James Wan (director) and Leigh Whannell (screenwriter), and one that will fascinate anyone with even a passing interest in the horror genre. To divulge much more of the deliciously twisted storylines would be a grave disservice to those who wish to be so wholly blown away by the nasty twists that Saw provides...
...but suffice to say that the flick's about one serial killer, two desperate cops, three or four skin-wrenchingly slick sequences of terrorizing torture, and five or six well-earned scares that will have even the most jaded Gorehound squirming happily in their seats.
If you're even half of a true blue movie nut, then you certainly harbor some admiration for actor Cary Elwes. This is the guy who stole scenes whole in Glory, The Chase, Shadow of the Vampire, Liar Liar, Hot Shots!, Twister and Kiss the Girls. Heck, he's the Dread Pirate Roberts! (If you don't know The Princess Bride by now, you're officially banished from reading my reviews. Sorry.) When Cary's name pops up in the opening credits (usually 4th or 5th), we think "Hey, cool. At the very least I get another visit with a character actor I dig."
Anyway, Cary plays Dr. Gordon, one of the chained and detained, Whannell himself snags the role of the also confused & captured Adam, Monica Potter is the doctor's wife, Danny Glover and Ken Leung are the detectives on the case, and heck - even the adorable Dina Meyer pops up as a criminologist with a few horrific tales to tell.
Saw boasts one of those fractured narratives, one that doubles back on itself a few times to divulge the creepiness in the most shocking doses, and it's great to see a movie that uses this technique because it actually works. Most filmmakers that attempt this gimmick do so for one reason: if they told their story in A-B-C fashion...you'd fall asleep. Not so here, as Wan and Whannell tip their cards craftily and quite confidently. As the surprises unfold, you feel satisfied and not cheated. That's good stuff.
Visually, Saw is gritty, grungy, pallid and stark. It's gross, grimy bathrooms and dark, dreary dungeons. Some may opt to dismiss many of Wan's directorial flourishes as those overtly inspired by David Fincher or David Lynch or Clive Barker, to which another could respond "And? The kid's got good taste!"
It would be a stunning disservice to Charlie Clouser and his brutally effective musical score were I not to mention how blisteringly cool it is, so I just did. Clouser's strains (not at all unlike the work he's done for Nine Inch Nails as a producer, songwriter and drummer) deliver rough-edged icing onto Saw's cold, rusty cake.
Shot, cut, finished and ready for its film festival debut in just under five full months, and clearly conceived by two young filmmakers who have just as much love for the Horror Genre as they do talent to pull it off, SAW is the absolute highlight of the 2004 Sundance Film Festival, a potential goldmine for the fine folks at Lion's Gate Films, and a cult classic waiting to happen for those who like their Horror Movies dark, smart, twisted and hard.
Who's seen Cube by the way?
If I told you this one was "Seven" meets "Cube" by way of a Nine Inch Nails video (with a sprinkling of "The Silence of the Lambs" thrown in for flavor), you'd probably dismiss the movie as something less than unique or original, let alone brain-crackingly cool. In which case you might overlook "Saw", which is easily one of the most deliciously gruesome and addictively entertaining horror movies I've seen in years. Yes, I said years.
Two complete strangers awaken in a disgusting bathroom in the middle of god-knows-where. They're both chained by the ankles and escape seems quite impossible; but a handful of disturbing clues are left behind (not the least of which is a dead man with his brains blown out), and the pair quickly find themselves unraveling a collection of mysteries that are probably better left unmolested.
This is the opening scene of Saw, the brilliant new horror flick from first-time filmmakers James Wan (director) and Leigh Whannell (screenwriter), and one that will fascinate anyone with even a passing interest in the horror genre. To divulge much more of the deliciously twisted storylines would be a grave disservice to those who wish to be so wholly blown away by the nasty twists that Saw provides...
...but suffice to say that the flick's about one serial killer, two desperate cops, three or four skin-wrenchingly slick sequences of terrorizing torture, and five or six well-earned scares that will have even the most jaded Gorehound squirming happily in their seats.
If you're even half of a true blue movie nut, then you certainly harbor some admiration for actor Cary Elwes. This is the guy who stole scenes whole in Glory, The Chase, Shadow of the Vampire, Liar Liar, Hot Shots!, Twister and Kiss the Girls. Heck, he's the Dread Pirate Roberts! (If you don't know The Princess Bride by now, you're officially banished from reading my reviews. Sorry.) When Cary's name pops up in the opening credits (usually 4th or 5th), we think "Hey, cool. At the very least I get another visit with a character actor I dig."
Anyway, Cary plays Dr. Gordon, one of the chained and detained, Whannell himself snags the role of the also confused & captured Adam, Monica Potter is the doctor's wife, Danny Glover and Ken Leung are the detectives on the case, and heck - even the adorable Dina Meyer pops up as a criminologist with a few horrific tales to tell.
Saw boasts one of those fractured narratives, one that doubles back on itself a few times to divulge the creepiness in the most shocking doses, and it's great to see a movie that uses this technique because it actually works. Most filmmakers that attempt this gimmick do so for one reason: if they told their story in A-B-C fashion...you'd fall asleep. Not so here, as Wan and Whannell tip their cards craftily and quite confidently. As the surprises unfold, you feel satisfied and not cheated. That's good stuff.
Visually, Saw is gritty, grungy, pallid and stark. It's gross, grimy bathrooms and dark, dreary dungeons. Some may opt to dismiss many of Wan's directorial flourishes as those overtly inspired by David Fincher or David Lynch or Clive Barker, to which another could respond "And? The kid's got good taste!"
It would be a stunning disservice to Charlie Clouser and his brutally effective musical score were I not to mention how blisteringly cool it is, so I just did. Clouser's strains (not at all unlike the work he's done for Nine Inch Nails as a producer, songwriter and drummer) deliver rough-edged icing onto Saw's cold, rusty cake.
Shot, cut, finished and ready for its film festival debut in just under five full months, and clearly conceived by two young filmmakers who have just as much love for the Horror Genre as they do talent to pull it off, SAW is the absolute highlight of the 2004 Sundance Film Festival, a potential goldmine for the fine folks at Lion's Gate Films, and a cult classic waiting to happen for those who like their Horror Movies dark, smart, twisted and hard.
Who's seen Cube by the way?
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Galaxia21
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I agree. I just saw the commerical for it last night. It looks like the type that would get under my skin.. I dunno though cause hardly anything bothers me anymore.
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groovyk1
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I watched SAW about 3 weeks ago and I thought it was pretty good.
Some of the scenes were gruesome...like the head brace/Jaw one....I don't want to say to much.
I really enjoyed the ending...I was like 'what??????'
Some of the scenes were gruesome...like the head brace/Jaw one....I don't want to say to much.
I really enjoyed the ending...I was like 'what??????'
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laurendbs
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i like the storylines it actually made sense to me unlike other horror movies who have a psychopath killing for no reason.
I didn't notice any rock music. I must have been concentrating too much on the plot. :lol:
As for the car chase, it wasn't as bad because that scene and the part where Dr. Gordon cuts off his foot were edited together. So it wasn't just one long car chase dragging on forever. But I do know what you mean...
As for the car chase, it wasn't as bad because that scene and the part where Dr. Gordon cuts off his foot were edited together. So it wasn't just one long car chase dragging on forever. But I do know what you mean...
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spent cigarette
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Wow. We're like six days off. This is a pleasant surprise. I can't wait now. It's like five days before my eighteenth. :woot: I wanna post some pics... so expect me to be back soonish if I can find 'em.
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capesidefan
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yeah it looks twisted