SheWhoWatches
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While I don't think its a bad album, their s/t debut is definitely my least favorite.
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maddenplayer89
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I do not own a single Hancock album. That should be rectified for sure.
xr200dirtrider1121
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I actually had Preemptive Strike for a while before I heard Endtroducing .
mad skillz
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I would enjoy a PM also... Not really what I expecting so far list wise, but that isn't a bad thing 
Silly Puddy
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:laughing:What, pray tell, were you expecting?
# 37 Charlie Hunter Quartet - Natty Dread
To tell you the truth I'm almost at a complete loss for where to begin with Charlie Hunter.
I could start with showing you a picture of his instrument:
I know, I know we've all seen these musicians that need to have 1, or 2, or 10 more strings than the next guy. Usually its a matter of a musician wanting to increase the tonal range of his instrument. That's not quite the case with Charlie.
You see when Charlie Hunter was a teenager he, despite the fact that he was a guitar player, had an obsession with all the great jazz organ players. Mainly he was obsessed with transposing all the cool Hammond organ licks to his guitar, but discovered early on that a conventional 6 string wasn't apt for pulling off the tonal range & tirabre of a Hammond B3 organ.
A Hammond organ's bass extenRAB deeper into the lower register than almost anything that you listen today that isn't synthetically produced. Most competent B3 players, especially jazz players, will literally play bass lines with the left hand while playing chordal structures and melodies with the right. Achieving this particular effect really wasn't a possibility for Chrlie with a conventional guitar.
So what did charlie do? Well, he did what any of us would do given the same conundrum, He designed an instrument himself that was the top 3 strings of a bass guitar and the bottom 5 of "regular" guitar, routed the bass strings through a bass amp, the guitar strings through a guitar amp, played effectively, 2 instrument parts simultaneously, and made it sound like an organ. And for any stringed instrument musicians that are putting it all together in their head. I'll give you the answer before you ask. He doesn't employ any right-hand tapping.
Confused yet? Well here comes the good part. Somewhere, a few albums into his discography, Charlie had a fantastic idea. He, it would seem at least, asked himself the question "what If I took one of Bob Marley's best recorRAB, covered it in its entirety, first song to last, instrumentally as a jazz piece?".
Such an endeavor if attempted by most contemporary electric jazz musicians would really run the risk of falling directly into the smooth jazz pit of despair, but this album is a work of interpretive art. Them Belly Full swings with the intensity and bravado of a big band orchestra. No Woman No Cry is as tender and emotional as the original and every song in between has something to lend to the overall palette of this wonderful album. Definitely a must hear for any reggae fans.
To tell you the truth I'm almost at a complete loss for where to begin with Charlie Hunter.
I could start with showing you a picture of his instrument:
I know, I know we've all seen these musicians that need to have 1, or 2, or 10 more strings than the next guy. Usually its a matter of a musician wanting to increase the tonal range of his instrument. That's not quite the case with Charlie.
You see when Charlie Hunter was a teenager he, despite the fact that he was a guitar player, had an obsession with all the great jazz organ players. Mainly he was obsessed with transposing all the cool Hammond organ licks to his guitar, but discovered early on that a conventional 6 string wasn't apt for pulling off the tonal range & tirabre of a Hammond B3 organ.
A Hammond organ's bass extenRAB deeper into the lower register than almost anything that you listen today that isn't synthetically produced. Most competent B3 players, especially jazz players, will literally play bass lines with the left hand while playing chordal structures and melodies with the right. Achieving this particular effect really wasn't a possibility for Chrlie with a conventional guitar.
So what did charlie do? Well, he did what any of us would do given the same conundrum, He designed an instrument himself that was the top 3 strings of a bass guitar and the bottom 5 of "regular" guitar, routed the bass strings through a bass amp, the guitar strings through a guitar amp, played effectively, 2 instrument parts simultaneously, and made it sound like an organ. And for any stringed instrument musicians that are putting it all together in their head. I'll give you the answer before you ask. He doesn't employ any right-hand tapping.
Confused yet? Well here comes the good part. Somewhere, a few albums into his discography, Charlie had a fantastic idea. He, it would seem at least, asked himself the question "what If I took one of Bob Marley's best recorRAB, covered it in its entirety, first song to last, instrumentally as a jazz piece?".
Such an endeavor if attempted by most contemporary electric jazz musicians would really run the risk of falling directly into the smooth jazz pit of despair, but this album is a work of interpretive art. Them Belly Full swings with the intensity and bravado of a big band orchestra. No Woman No Cry is as tender and emotional as the original and every song in between has something to lend to the overall palette of this wonderful album. Definitely a must hear for any reggae fans.
brittykay09
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Wow. I'm very glad that you posted again, because otherwise I may not have ever found this thread. I am completely obsessed with most music that fuses jazz with other sounRAB, but countless times I've asked for suggestions and gotten "Jazz fusion is great! Check out Bitches Brew, Weather Underground, and Herbie Han****!" Now Bitches Brew just honestly never "did it" for me. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely appreciate the music; I regard it as a classic, I just don't enjoy it too often. Herbie Han**** I enjoy, and Headhunters is amazing. Absolutely loved your review. I also thought I was possibly the only person in the world that considered Entroducing to be more jazzy than trip hop, as I usually hear it classified.
This is pretty much now my favorite thread on Music Banter, you're getting into the music that I ****ing love. So I am telling you you have to finish it. Sorry. I've already found some great stuff on here, I read through the entire thread and checked out Hepcat and Natty Dread so far, and intend to find Medeski, Martin & Wood next. I usually don't like ska, but wow. Hepcat got it right. I enjoyed the Natty Dread better than Bob Marley, to be honest with you. Don't hate me, I've just never been able to take large doses of reggae. Minutemen have long been a favorite of mine, and Low End Theory and to an even greater extent, People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythym were the two albums that first introduced me to the hip hop I now love, and led to my discovery of Entroducing.
So pretty much, please continue this. I'll be reading. In fact, it is now the 3rd thread that I am actually following.
This is pretty much now my favorite thread on Music Banter, you're getting into the music that I ****ing love. So I am telling you you have to finish it. Sorry. I've already found some great stuff on here, I read through the entire thread and checked out Hepcat and Natty Dread so far, and intend to find Medeski, Martin & Wood next. I usually don't like ska, but wow. Hepcat got it right. I enjoyed the Natty Dread better than Bob Marley, to be honest with you. Don't hate me, I've just never been able to take large doses of reggae. Minutemen have long been a favorite of mine, and Low End Theory and to an even greater extent, People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythym were the two albums that first introduced me to the hip hop I now love, and led to my discovery of Entroducing.
So pretty much, please continue this. I'll be reading. In fact, it is now the 3rd thread that I am actually following.
TydusArandor
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It's the magic nuraber, and as good a nuraber as any i guess. Hmm, maybe I should have gone with 43? Damn. oh well.
Yuan Hung Low
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This is one of my all time favorite albums. If there's such a thing as progressive hip hop, it's this.
This guy has such an incredible ear for music, to be able to take ANYTHING and make something new out of it.
Who says DJs can't be brilliant composers?
And the "rainy" comment, f*cking A. I've always felt that way about this album too. There's certain albums that have what I'd call a "rainy" sound to them, Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation is one of them, and so is this one.
This guy has such an incredible ear for music, to be able to take ANYTHING and make something new out of it.
Who says DJs can't be brilliant composers?
And the "rainy" comment, f*cking A. I've always felt that way about this album too. There's certain albums that have what I'd call a "rainy" sound to them, Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation is one of them, and so is this one.
i think perhaps funk may be an even closer approximation of the fiber of jazz within a different context, but soul is by far an expansive genre itself. and of course, Aretha is its queen, so very fitting of you to find a spot for her.
i must say though, this list is in dire need of some Joe Baiza, whether in regarRAB to Saccharine Trust or one of his many collaborations. i still have yet to find a more inventive and imaginative jazz guitarist to eschew the tenets of "fusion" and all its proggier aspects for something so ballsy cool.
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i must say though, this list is in dire need of some Joe Baiza, whether in regarRAB to Saccharine Trust or one of his many collaborations. i still have yet to find a more inventive and imaginative jazz guitarist to eschew the tenets of "fusion" and all its proggier aspects for something so ballsy cool.
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Thank you
There's so much happening on this album as far as individual recorded instruments. Electric basses overdubbed onto acoustic basses, electric pianos left, right and center, left and right drum sets, miles talking throughout the session etc. You really need to create an attentive sounRABtage to truly appreciate this album. I'm glad you took my advice before I even gave it.
There's so much happening on this album as far as individual recorded instruments. Electric basses overdubbed onto acoustic basses, electric pianos left, right and center, left and right drum sets, miles talking throughout the session etc. You really need to create an attentive sounRABtage to truly appreciate this album. I'm glad you took my advice before I even gave it.
december.rain
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Fucking A :thurab: Top-drawer album that. I just love how most of it sounRAB like a medley, particularly towarRAB the start of the album (to me at least). Great review there.
I think this is one of the reasons i enjoy your reviews. Theres an ethos of quality around how you operate. I recently read a blog review about CtS, between your arabiguous endorsement and that review, I'll certainly check it out.
Similarly, I just just got into Howlin' Wolf thanks to LastFM. One of the struggels I find with old artists who have tons of works, esp. someone like Wolf who worked in the singles era of corporate music, is that you can never find the good stuff, through a field of overmarketed GH albums. I think this is going to be one of the more fruitful threaRAB on the board for just this reason. It seems that you're working with notable, but non-mainstream acts who have tons of things. (MMW comes to mind; btw which album has chubsub on it?)
Its a new path for a lot of us (myself included) and giving us a good point to jump off on is brilliant. Thanks, man.
Edit: I'm a man who likes to dip his toes before commitment (take that how you want), is there a way we could get some recommended tracks on an album? I know this is sacrelig but I'm tryin'. Can't blame a man for tryin'.
Similarly, I just just got into Howlin' Wolf thanks to LastFM. One of the struggels I find with old artists who have tons of works, esp. someone like Wolf who worked in the singles era of corporate music, is that you can never find the good stuff, through a field of overmarketed GH albums. I think this is going to be one of the more fruitful threaRAB on the board for just this reason. It seems that you're working with notable, but non-mainstream acts who have tons of things. (MMW comes to mind; btw which album has chubsub on it?)
Its a new path for a lot of us (myself included) and giving us a good point to jump off on is brilliant. Thanks, man.
Edit: I'm a man who likes to dip his toes before commitment (take that how you want), is there a way we could get some recommended tracks on an album? I know this is sacrelig but I'm tryin'. Can't blame a man for tryin'.