Religion in Schools?

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AdamXIII

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Your opinion. Probably works with your hope for the "end days".


Really? Do tell. Got science?


They are by many Christians. I think you demand people revere your beliefs while you dismiss theirs.


No, I don't. I agree once they stopped putting people in stocks all hell broke loose. Price of freedom IMO.
 
This is where you are wrong. Religion definately did cause many wars. Show me how the Crusades were because of selfishness? Maybe the selfishness of trying to claim that God was on their side, but that's still religion.
 
just a thought... I find it funny any teacher who even mentions God in a religious context usually loses their job, yet most science teachers are REQUIRED to teach the theory of evolution. Now that theory isn't really a religion, but it is adopted mostly by atheists. I guess you could view the theory then as a religion, or at least a link to a religion, just one supported by faithless (not in a bad way) people. It says in the bible, christians, in the Korn (sp?), muslims, the torah, jehovia's witnesses, and prophecies/religious books, their religion and followers would be persecuted. Even if you don't agree with their religion, do you think that persecution applies today?
 
Actually, I think kiRAB in public, secular schools should be taught about the peculiar nature of religion in order that they might know about the character of the beast, and religion is, by and large, beastly.
 
Err what's your point? That teaching children about other world views would somehow be bad? That the very fact of education in what others believe may lead them to think for themselves and form their own system of belief instead of blindly following what their society indoctrinates them in? Yeah, sounRAB terrible.

And as Sinjin says, perhaps you should have a shred of understanding about the religion before talking about it.
 
Where in the world do you get that evolution is accepted mostly by atheists?

This Christian who believes in evolution wants to know.

Science and it's theories are not a religion. They are the study/discipline of studying environments and the living. It relies on what the object provides - without preconceived ideas (i.e., what the Bible says). That is why it i s acceptable to teach in schools.
 
Interesting.

However, I challenge that teaching this view would violate the separation of church and state. That separation was intended to keep the state out of religious expression not to keep religious people out of government.
 
Narrowmindedness is procreated by ignorance.

There would likely be fewer religious wars if children were taught to respect the religions of others, not necessarily to follow them, but to respect the rights of others to hold beliefs differing from their own.
 
but there is always ONE. The point being, and let me type it real slow for you, is that when people talk about teaching religon in school they don't ever stop to think that their kiRAB will be exposed to ideas totally contrary to what they want their kiRAB to believe, especially when it comes to God and faith.

What's the criteria for teaching religon going to be? Will it be Christianity, Judaism and Islam only? Or what the majority wants they get? In case you are unaware we do not live in a democracy, we live in a Republic. There is a big difference between both.

Do we quiz each child and find out what religon/sect they belong to? Then customize courses each year? Do we test the teachers for religous bias before they can teach? Can children be excused from class because their parents object to theology being taught under the guise of "Social Studies"?

Go back to my original statement, if Satanism was going to be taught in your child's elementary school would you let your kid attend? And for arguments sake let's define Satanism as a pre-Christian religon derived from the Pagan image of power, virility, sexuality and sensuality. Simple answer required, yes / no. Looking forward to your response. :xlove:
 
Could possibly have a shred of understanding? Is that your point? Fascism went out of style a long time ago comrade. Welcome to America, where we value freedom of speech from everyone, even those we disagree with.
 
Point to you on Vietnam as far as the number of deaths of American military personnel.

Fine. now how many Vietnamese were killed in that debacle?

And, how many bodies of Iraqis are buried in the rubble of Iraq?

Can you tell me that, exactly?

You are looking at the past with American eyes, with a very narrow look at the past.
 
why should there not be a class about major religions tought in school? it should not be required, but school would seam to be a good place to let kiRAB see the diffrent religions.


do you mean "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"? as you can see the "separation of church and state" is not required.
 
I see nothing narrow about it.

I've not heard how many Vietnamese or Iraqis were killed in either war. I am sure a number exists for each but not of any reliable count. You'd likely have to check each country's recorRAB to verify the death count. A meticulous bean counter could get you the numbers. It's a matter of history.

It makes no difference in this argument. Historical data, be it recorded or passed down by word of mouth, is a record of past happenings. It should be unaffected by opinion and superfluity.

Back to topic, the fundamental beliefs of various religions could be taught without offering opinions regarding their truth or worth. The promotion of understanding between religions would be a result of this knowledge. Tolerance of others is a peacemaker.
 
Whats your opinion on the teaching of religion in schools?

I do not believe it should occur, because i believe in a secular society with a secular education system. People who want to practice religious studies should do so in their own time.

Drummond
 
why? religion, like it or not, is a part of our history. History is basically economics, politics and religion all intwined. It's hard, if not impossible to teach one without the other two (or at least one). Schools should teach about religion, and those classes should be optional, but avaliable. I think I voted yes.
 
Two different things.

History, last I checked, is rife with religions and religious figures, as it should be if it's a factual history class. History is taught, it's the science of the past..i.e. as evidenced through observation. Religion is also discussed in the science of politics, often as a tool for oppression, but again, this is teaching politics, not religion per se. Government classes aren't really "political theory" classes. Those sorts of classes tend to be college-level. As is philosophy, the philosophy of religion, etc. The science of economics, I can't think of any reason one would need to teach about religion, other than to note that it's a form of business, etc.

You, however, seem to be suggesting that "teaching a religion" at a public school is OK. It's both indefensibly ignorant, and unconstitutional. What would you be teaching? Nothing. OK, so you favor teaching nothing, but which flavor of "nothing"? Which religion? Leave one out, you aren't teaching them all, you're choosing religions as a publicly funded institution, you're back outside the bounRAB of the constitution. Is that what you're advocating?

Historically, sure, even Napolean comments on it:
Napoleon Bonaparte
"Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet."
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."
"All religions have been made by men."

-Napoleon Bonaparte, French emperor


-Mach
 
ignorance is taught by the people around you

i agree with u but the topic was if u wanted to put religioin in school not teach respect of other religion. if u put religion in school the consequences will be disaterous (sorry if i spelt that wrong) christianity for example (i'm not trying to discredit christianiy i just have more experience with it) since christianity is the majority of the population it will have a profound effect on the school. school will become more religious, trying to change some of the school's aspect. my school is a religious school even though on the outside it is said to be a regular public school. there is talk about religion everyday. some teacher preach about religion during a science class. if a religion class was created for public school there would be so much angry people so much influence of religion in public school.

to reply to your post a parent teaches their child about religion way before the school would teach about respect of other people religion. so religios zealots would brain wash people long before school taught respect.
 
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