refried beans

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"Ophelia" wrote:


Yes. In fact, I would just heat them up and eat them as you made them
(just my personal preference).

The only caution, is that for people reading this thread, many make
their baked beans with a lot of sugar and tomato products. People may
or may not like those, either fried up in pork fat, or served with
Mexican food.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
"Bryan" wrote
"Julie Bove" wrote:



Grin, I'll have to try them again! Mostly I make my own 'refried' as
there's always leftovers here. Last can I got was a kroger store brand and
they were pretty good. I also used canned chickpeas for 'huumus' as they
have the right texture I want.

I'm debating making a bag of canary yellows right now. I don't have the
right 'sausage' for them though. There's a sort of very firm chiorzo, almost
like pepperoni that I like with them and I'm out. They can be fixed other
ways though.
 
"Ran?e at Arabian Knits" wrote


Yes there is but it denatures quite easily. No need to remove the boiling
water either unless you want to. The average crockpot will well exceed the
level needed to cook a kidney bean or you'd have had folks dropping like
flies for ages over it (grin). I think it's Dan who nailed it down to folks
eating raw beans after possibly sprouting them.

It's unfortunate that the wiki article is wrong, but that's just something
you learn to deal with. I shall perhaps later go in and edit a correction.
 
"Ophelia" wrote



Dry black eyes are a total treat! Lentils I am getting into as a new
addition here but others may have better recipes for them.



(grin!). I still think that way but I can convert pretty easy for most
things.


Got it! I wouldn't like that one as much as the timer limits but it's
definately nice in all other ways!

It''s about the size of my 'junior crock'. I have 3, Momma (BIG oval, whole
pork shoulder, whole bone in ham, 6lb chicken etc), Junior (4L like yours),
and Baby (5cups). Junior is a good size for meals for 2 with leftovers.
'Baby' predates that size having more than 'plugged in or not' (heat is high
when on) so is a bit limited in use but at times, she's just right.


Same here! I use the oven not that much though. I might go 3 months
without using it, then use it twice in a week.
 
On Sun, 1 May 2011 16:22:41 -0400, Felice wrote:


"Grease" I consider a byproduct for cooking something else. Fat (and
Lard), OTOH is something I carefully trim/render/buy specifically for
use in cooking.

e.g. Bacon fat is the fat trimmed from uncooked bacon. Bacon grease
is what's left-over after you cook the bacon. At least that's my
definition. Most people here do refer to leftover bacon grease as
just that - Bacon grease.

-sw

-sw
 
"George Shirley" wrote



Also 'american' for baked beans normally means sugar added while 'refritos'
almost never use sugar.


Yes, agreed. Mine are never actually 'fried' but are cooked with pork
bones, pork fat, porky bits or any variation of that. Lift out a portion,
let drain then mash and use as normal.
 
In article ,
"Ophelia" wrote:


They are actually a misnomer. They are not re-fried, they are
re-cooked: refritos. However, they do use up leftover beans from other
dishes. I often do so with leftovers from ranchero beans, but sometimes
I will cook up a pot of beans entirely with the plan to make refried
beans.

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
 
"Ophelia" wrote




Yeah, kinda hard to describe!



USA folks picked this one up possibly from the amerinds but came in from
lots of places. It's an odd household local to me that wouldn't have them
at least twice a month in some level of form. Many homes, it's almost every
day there is a side dish of them. Conversely we largely have no clue what
you'd mean if you mention 'pudding' from a UK aspect.

I know little of UK 'pudding' other than it is grain based, fairly thick,
and has a consistancy not too far off 'refried beans' (mashed, seldom truely
fried but may have oil added as mashed and sorta fried as you mix them up).


Look about your stores and tell me what types they have in dried form.
Don't be suprized if they are a bit different than my common list. I just
listed 'the' most common types but your area may have alot of canary yellows
(fairly vibrant yellow when dried, fits mostly with white beans above) or a
mottled sort of smallish round one with a white background and red blots
(cranberry beans we call them and they fit between the red/pink and the
white).

I left off dried baby limas and large limas (dried lima beans, may also be
called 'butter beans') because I've been told they arent sold much where you
are. They bear almost no flavor relation to fresh ones and fit in roughly
with the white beans.

Universally though there are some basics to cooking dried beans. The least
expensive method uses a 'crockpot' (I believe you call them slowcookers, a
counter top device with a ceramic crock setting in a stand with a glass
lid).

Exact measures are not required so you'd add about 500g dried to 3.5-4L
water then add some stock cubes if you like and we normally add peeled
chopped garlic and black pepper. Many add salt at this stage so suit
yourself. We often have a ham bone or some sort of porky bits and add them
in but they are fine without that if you like. A scoup of bacon fat is nice
but not essential if you have a need to reduce that. Chicken fat somehow
doesnt work BTW but with white beans, duck fat works well.

Set crockpot/slow cooker on lowest setting and let it do it's thing. The
bean type will vary on when it's ready but most will be by 8 hours and hold
well for 2 days straight heating (getting naturally closer to mashed as you
go along). Stove top works too but will cost you 4x in energy bills. Time
to stovetop at a merry boil is 45mins-2 hours with the slowest to tenderize
beans getting more notable on that (pintos).

I can scroll off actual recipes as well if you want!

PS: sorry if i have overexplained. I can't recall if you are a USA sort
living abroad so know my terms, or are a UK friend who might need a little
translation.
 
On Sun, 1 May 2011 17:47:45 -0400, Felice wrote:


Doesn't matter. The name of something does not make it any more
palatable for me (despite what the marketing people think). Ypu can
call it Liquid Pork Supreme for all I care :-)

-sw
 
On Apr 30, 2:38?pm, notbob wrote:

Not all packaged lard is hydrogenated. Some brands are kept in the
cold case and are natural. Still, the stuff from the carniceria would
be fresher.

--Bryan
 
On Apr 30, 4:17?pm, "cshenk" wrote:
Different beans can taste DRASTICALLY different. I find great
northerns completely repulsive. I used to spend the night at a
friend's house when my mother made her ham & beans because the stench
was so bad.

--Bryan
 
On Mon, 2 May 2011 18:12:22 -0400, cshenk wrote:


That leaves about 45% that won't cook them properly.


I can buy fresh kidney and garbonzo beans, as well as taro. None of
them come with warnings on them.

IOW: It was a topic worth mentioning. Let it go ferchristsakes.

-sw
 
In article ,
"cshenk" wrote:


I don't remember the name of it, but there _is_ actually a toxin
present in kidney beans that requires them to be boiled for 10 minutes
before other cooking (possibly even draining the water from boiling) to
remove it/neutralize it.

Regards,
Ranee @ Arabian Knits

"She seeks wool and flax, and works with willing hands." Prov 31:13

http://arabianknits.blogspot.com/
 
"cshenk" wrote in message
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The refried beans I make are very good. The problem? I always make too
much at one time. It's sort of like rice or pasta. I try to be careful but
always cook too much. And then there is the cooking time. Much easier just
to pop open a can. And they're cheap!
 
In article ,
"Julie Bove" wrote:



The companies that make slow cookers really don't want to tell you what
temperatures they reach. The cookers produce very little heat and don't
have a thermostat. There are just too many factors involved, and your
average user can't be expected to understand them all.


To be really anal, what *I* read was that the people who got really sick
ate soaked but uncooked beans. It just takes 4 or 5 beans to make you
sick. The advice was to bring SOAKED beans to the boil and keep them
boiling for fifteen minutes. This will reduce toxins to levels that
cannot be detected. Once the toxins are destroyed you can cook them
however you desire, as far as the toxins are concerned.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
"Randy Johnson" wrote in message
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That's a rather vague description, Randy. Not all beans are alike.

Ophelia, pinto beans are generally a dark beige with some brown speckles on
them. They're small, rather compact dried beans that withstand long slow
cooking. Once you've cooked them to the point of being tender (mashable)
then you use them to make refried beans. And for that you'll need lard or
other fat. Because you have to boil them first, then mash them and fry
them. And unless you want to re-create the pasty half-mush they serve in
U.S. Tex-Mex restaurants, you'll want to add some chili powders/spices to
them first.

Jill
 
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