Reclassifying Films
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Xx Evelyne xX
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I don't know this for a fact with that movie, but a recent trend is for a studio to submit a film for a cut 15 at the cinema but reinstate the cut material for an 18 DVD. They also do it with cinema 12s and DVD 15s.
I recall reading somewhere that the bulk of cinemagoers are 13-18, so commercially it makes sense to get a lower 15 certificate for the cinema where it's harder for people under 18 to get in and see it but have an 18 on DVD where it's easy for under 18s to see it.
I recall reading somewhere that the bulk of cinemagoers are 13-18, so commercially it makes sense to get a lower 15 certificate for the cinema where it's harder for people under 18 to get in and see it but have an 18 on DVD where it's easy for under 18s to see it.
SmokeAsesh
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I don't know how accurate it is, but Imdb's 'Alternate Versions' section states that the BBFC's cuts were fully waived in 2001. I do seem to remember the scenes that it says were cut being intact on the Blu Ray though.
Speaking of Arnie films, I recently saw the Blu Ray of 'Commando' which is uncut in the UK for the first time. The film actually makes sense now! On the DVD when Arnie punches the guy on the plane and says "please don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired" it seems as if the punch alone has killed him, when infact the Blu Ray shows Arnie snapping his neck before resting his head on the pillow. I just wish that they'd get around to re-classifying 'True Lies' for a Blu Ray release, the cut version of that film is one of the worst hack jobs i've ever seen (i managed to get hold of one of the initial DVD releases with the old style 15 certificate on the disc which was accidentally released completely uncut, but i'd still like it in HD!
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And also, wasn't '30 Days of Night' raised to an 18 on DVD because of a few brief additional scenes of violence? I seem to remember a scene at the end of the film where a persons head has been smashed in or exploded or something that wasn't as graphic in the cinema release.
Speaking of Arnie films, I recently saw the Blu Ray of 'Commando' which is uncut in the UK for the first time. The film actually makes sense now! On the DVD when Arnie punches the guy on the plane and says "please don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired" it seems as if the punch alone has killed him, when infact the Blu Ray shows Arnie snapping his neck before resting his head on the pillow. I just wish that they'd get around to re-classifying 'True Lies' for a Blu Ray release, the cut version of that film is one of the worst hack jobs i've ever seen (i managed to get hold of one of the initial DVD releases with the old style 15 certificate on the disc which was accidentally released completely uncut, but i'd still like it in HD!
).And also, wasn't '30 Days of Night' raised to an 18 on DVD because of a few brief additional scenes of violence? I seem to remember a scene at the end of the film where a persons head has been smashed in or exploded or something that wasn't as graphic in the cinema release.
lovepinkkx17
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30 Days Of Night was passed uncut for cinema and DVD release. The second time the BBFC watched it (for DVD release) they thought it was more appropriate at 18 rather than 15. I've never seen it so I can't say what rating I agree with.
Perhaps I should have said "routine or frequent upgrading" .
It was quite often when Ferman was there - but it's not been since he left.
Often the cinema release will be submitted as a cut version for the lower rating , so just because the BBFC say "This film was passed with no cuts made" does not mean it was uncut as cuts made prior to sumission are not taken into account.
Home video versions , especially in the US are likely to be a complete unrated version whereas the cinema version is cut to gain a lower rating
Die Hard 2 also appeared on UK Laserdisc with the 18 rating and ice in the eye scene intact.
Die Hard 2 is uncut on dvd and Bluray in the UK .
Should Die Hard 3 ever appear on Bluray in the UK whether it's cut would be questionable.
And Die Hard 4 on Bluray is cut but not by the BBFC- its the studios theatrical version .
The stronger R version was part of a 2 disc dvd but remains unavailable on Bluray although suspicions abound about a forthcoming Australian Bluray re-release of the film .
My Australian Bluray boxset has the same DH4 as the UK Bluray
It was quite often when Ferman was there - but it's not been since he left.
Often the cinema release will be submitted as a cut version for the lower rating , so just because the BBFC say "This film was passed with no cuts made" does not mean it was uncut as cuts made prior to sumission are not taken into account.
Home video versions , especially in the US are likely to be a complete unrated version whereas the cinema version is cut to gain a lower rating
Die Hard 2 also appeared on UK Laserdisc with the 18 rating and ice in the eye scene intact.
Die Hard 2 is uncut on dvd and Bluray in the UK .
Should Die Hard 3 ever appear on Bluray in the UK whether it's cut would be questionable.
And Die Hard 4 on Bluray is cut but not by the BBFC- its the studios theatrical version .
The stronger R version was part of a 2 disc dvd but remains unavailable on Bluray although suspicions abound about a forthcoming Australian Bluray re-release of the film .
My Australian Bluray boxset has the same DH4 as the UK Bluray
Son_Of_Gabriel
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18 is the more appropriate rating in my 'umble opinion.