Rebirth of the Rebellion - Code Geass R2 Talkback (SPOILERS)

Actually I would be surprised to find out the ending montage wasn't done by CLAMP because that is very consistent with stuff they like to do as as covers to chapters at times with their manga. I think they also did the images at the end credits in the first season as well and of course the character design for the show.
 
Agreed. Besides, I've always considered the Guren to be the most overpowered unit in all of Geass, and while she did lose to Xingke that was kindof a fluke... I'd rather see her get bested by Suzaku (which has yet to happen and should have).
 
See, that's the thing- being pissed off at Zero/Lelouch? Understandable. Completely turning on him, his public ideals and trading him to make Japan a gloriied Special Region of Britannia whilst not caring what happens to the rest of the world? Wrong. Very wrong.
 
The only innovation I see is that Lelouch is a poor pilot. In any other show, Lelouch would be an ace. But he's not. He can use tactics to arabush grunts but against anyone with talent he loses. Hence why the show compensated with him getting a super mecha.
 
no way, any moron could tell Britanians was the evil/villany ones, there was never any question.

what with their mystery, mother's body stealing, little sister kidnaping, conquering, people massacering, ect....., at any point there was no doubt who the bad guy was.
 
The new Guren is incredibly overpowered. It's like Strike Freedom. Also, similar to SEED's G.U.N.D.A.M. systems, the new Guren uses a S.E.I.T.E.N. (Superlative Extruder Interlocked Technology Exclusive Nexus) system.
 
There's my point about consistency and narrative flow again. It's not impossible for a comedy show to do an about-face turn into serious drama. Saber Marionette J was doing it as far back as the early 90's. It's just that Geass's parts don't equal a very impressive, or coherent whole.

Even keeping the drama and comedy coherent is hard for good writers. That's why Full Metal Panic split off its comedy into the FUMFOU series while addressing the main story in 2nd Raid.
 
I mostly agree, I'm surprised at how much I think back to moments in the final episode. They did deliver, no doubt about that. I think it actually hits me harder now that I'm further away from it, which is a funny thing.

I agree about being able to deal with the arabiguity either way, though I have to admit I still find it difficult to see it as arabiguous. No one's explained the memory issue, and to raise another issue C.C. coyly rethinking the "Geass leaRAB to loneliness" line makes little sense if he isn't alive. Fulfilling the Zero Requiem separated him from everything that he knew, and then killed him. If that's the end of it plain and simple, Lelouch certainly remains a hero but to me it's inexplicable why C.C. would consider him not alone at the very end. She's also entirely too happy in that case, and she was only coy like that around Lelouch.
 
As a Japanese production it makes perfect sense to focus on the plight of an alternate Japan. Regardless, that doesn't ok the fact that the foreigners acting in the show are portrayed to ludicrous extremes. Outside of possibly Euphie, name me a positive foreign character in the show. Britannia has been portrayed as violent monsters, stripping Japan of its identity and forcing the people into slavery. China has been portrayed as weedling backstabbers (I won't address real world politics). It's a show where Japan is constantly being kicked by the non-Japanese, never really effectivelly balancing it.
 
How did he have a kick waiting for him though? Perhaps he is a bit arrogant at times, but his motives and goals aren't exactly evil. And he also takes the blame for his mistakes, unlike others, he is actually man enough to do so.
 
Oh I do hope the Black Knights pay the consequences, it was already emasculating enough for them when the Gurren literally wasted all the ones on hand a few episodes back.
 
Yes, the episode looked like its animation was rushed, but the content was good enough.

It was time for Suzaku to pick a path and stick to it (kill people and bear the consequences), so this is good news as far as I'm concerned. Makes him a little more interesting than just flip-flopping every so often because of this or that, which he was doing lately.

The Anya-Marianne-C.C. deal was a little confusing but it should get more screen time and hopefully some explanations next time.

Schneizel's doing business as usual, except that he finally turned against his daddy instead of just silently criticizing him.

I'm still not writing out Guilford, Nunnally, Sayoko and all those named characters being alive somehow, somewhere.

Lelouch was cool again this episode, but who knows if that will survive the inevitable revelations.

If everything else is good about the ending, I'd even forgive the presence of some fireworks.
 
I don't think anyone's coming off as a fool. Maybe it's because I'm getting older, but this kind of messing around seems common in alot of recent anime and manga. As if suddenly genuine creativity and craft of a story vanished, replaced with sponsor demanRAB and otaku pandering. It's the reason why I act so giddy over Gundam 00, which I feel has sidestepped alot of this...though watch as karma hits me round the head and makes it collapse later on.
 
Well than, what an episode. It is one of the better ones in a while. There was no unbelivable plot twist, Nunnally getting her vision back counts as a plot twist, but this is minor to the stuff they have doing earlier.

I hope no more deaths, let's end the fighting already. If Lelouch completes his mission, while it may by less than honest methoRAB, but get over it, except your gift.

They left us on the cliffhanger of what will Lelouch do next and no showing any clips of the next episode, which I think is smart of them. I guarentee will not use Geass on Nunnally.

He will let her make her own decessions, if she makes the wrong one and he has to kill her, so be it. Ironic the same thing that happened with Euphie. How is that for twisted logic, if Nunnally and Euphie dream of a peaceful world happens and they both have to die for it to happen.

Lelouch for once in a while showed some kindness to those loyal to him, relieved them of their duties, let them live and let them "rescue" the hostage. It doesn't matter to Lelouch, he plans on dying anyway, so reward his helpers, it is a nice gesture.
 
This.

R2 was far more disappointing than interesting, as all of those ideas and stuff that I thought were trying to be portrayed (like the FREIA explosion and such) basically got thrown out the window when you have people miraculously surviving.

Guess it's not that surprising. I mean, Nunally somehow survived the freia. Why not the guy who was ****ing in front of Lelouch when he got covered in the freia?

ugh...
 
Tsk Tsk GWO! Forgetting Mao? How could you!? He was not only fangirl material but mentally insane as well.
He deserved to be in a hospital for being such an obsessive basket case. Of course, he was pretty useless too. Though maybe there was still a point to him somewhere.

I'm lost with Rollo now after watching the video. He obviously has some issues of his own.
 
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