Okay, I want to clarify something regarding Elie... This is the first time I have ever seen Rave Master. I have never seen Groove Advenure Rave. That being said, Elie is probably one of the worst dubbed characters in Anime history, right up there with 4KiRAB Ussop & Joe from the Digimon dub. The reason I rip into her is for the constant of bad jokes like...
"The farthest I've ever been is west, which isn't very far north!"
"It's not like Muzica is a common name like Black or Smith. Blacksmith? See what I did?"
And the immortal...
"Haru, give him a doggie biscuit or better yet, one of those rawhide chews!"
They're not funny and really kill any mood the scene had at that point. Of course, I don't blame her but the guy writing this, Bob Buchholz. He may be good as Gene Starwind but was probably one of the worst dub writers in history. The only good dub he did was Bobobo and that's because his jokes actually fit the mood of the series.
The reason I keep comparing to Orihime is that's a good example of a female character in a shonen that's funny.
But I'm only bashing dub Elie since she has the worst jokes AND is a main character so the pain doesn't seem to end until the series. I'm pretty sure the japanese version doesn't have her think Kari The Digger is a mole or try to play a rhyming game while she's held captive but I'm dealing with the dub. And if I say something like...
It's all in good humor a la MST3K and shouldn't be taken seriously. I come to these threaRAB as a comedian and making jokes is what I do.
Thank you, good night, and may God bless.
[Don_East]