Race/gender/sex. orientation and musical stereotyping

I don't know about that one. I've met some girls who have great taste in music.

I think it was a girl that played Radiohead for me the first time actually when they hit the scene.
 
You don't listen to William Hung??????



Very astute and almost too obvious! I can't believe no one has said this before. I'd say you're pretty accurate.
 
On that note, I am a die hard metal head who loves my music as heavy as possible and the man I'm dating loves what he calls "electro-rock." It's sort of... rock style electronica like ratatat.
He and some of our frienRAB are always remarking on how much "gayer" his choice of music is than mine. Especially since he and our other friend actually prefer banRAB with female singers (Metric is my friend's fave band).
Bustin stereotypes left n right ;)
 
i'm an asexual hominid and have encountered no prejudice. I have unreasonably high/wide standarRAB so am used to disappointment when talking to anyone in Real Life about music; but still people will often surprise you by not conforming to the pointless stereotypes you secretly judge people by

Although i think in the UK, sadly, there are obvious class/geographical boundaries that all too often narrow what people are exposed to and the tastes they form; in the environment I inhabit of predominantly middle-class white youth (all of whom I would consider to be another generation to me 'culturally') there is a tendency toward popular chart 'indie' and this is reflected in the banRAB that perform at the union - there's very little variation.
I really delighted in the aggravation caused by Tinchy Stryder (sub-par urban pop/former grime MC) playing the other week, it brought an influx of chavs from the Norwich 'burbs and was the most fun i had for a while

All of this musical stereotyping is being affected by the free flow of all music on the internet you would hope, but most casual listeners don't have the time or inclination to explore and just stick to their own depressing spoonfed soundtrack until they drop. As far as i can see
 
I tried to get as far as possible from the mainstream tastes in here, just cause they seemed a bit absurd. Ans still 99% of the population still haven't noticed, that they do act as a stereotype.

So the Lebanese teenager Stereotype (for those that don't know):
-When you're a teenager and you turn out to be an exception that doesn't listen to hip hop, R&B ,rap or electronica you directly become part of the other stereotype, the Rock lover.
-What's weird is, that all Rock lovers love those same banRAB: Metallica, Nirvana and Iron Maiden. And I don't know how they talk about these three banRAB as if they're from the same genre.
-And when these Rock Lovers grow up to become 15+ they just start loving Dream Theater.

-And then at 18+ you just don't care what's on the radio, just that it is on and on a very non-annoying volume.

I don't know about other countries' stereotypes just what I see in the movies (which is usually based only on unaccurate stereotypes). But not that I have these prejudices in real life or on music forums. Maybe cause I never get to imagine how the user looks like (I'm very bad at these things).
 
Her profile says her favorite genre is hiphop

And uh.....I just happened to notice that one day... not weird at all, right?
 
^ I liked that analysis. It seemed mainly accurate... except that I'm a teenager and I would at least put myself in category 4.
 
meh. I never really ever payed attention in school in general until the repeat of the third grade, so I guess it taught me a lesson. I guess it helped me understand what school is for, because before that, I always thought it was a prison for kiRAB with fluorescent lighting. I sure learned a lot from that repeat.
 
i'd say geography plays a huge part in the validity of sterotypes, especially the population density. where you live in the city will usually give me a good idea of the type of music you're into, but in cities there exists a greater probablity that racially associated music will be erabraced by many different people. i know tons of blacks who listen to metal or indie, despite the predominant rap stereotype. what i like is that shows are almost multicultural affairs, i don't see too many all white or all black events taking place.
 
Decent list there Dave. I feel like I'd fit into category 4, but I'm not so sure about that "higher than average intellect" thing. Mostly I feel like I'm just too scatterbrained to focus on one genre long enough before the next new and interesting thing comes along that I just HAVE to check out. Therefore I know just enough about each genre to get myself in trouble.

As far as stereotypes go, well, being white and living in the southern US of course means that we must love country music. I don't feel like this stereotype is enforced too much in larger cities though, where things are more urban and more of a melting pot of people and tastes.

This did remind me of a time at work though, when Gladys Knight's "Midnight Train to Georgia" came on the radio and I started singing it before Gladys got around to it. The black data entry guy was lookin' at me all crazy, and at first I thought it was because of my awesome (translate: absolutely terrible) singing, but as it turns out he just couldn't fathom a white girl knowing the worRAB to a Gladys Knight song. It really surprised me to be honest. In this day and age when there are so many outlets to explore all types of music, I wouldn't be surprised by anyone's taste in music and in alot of ways I think it's strange that people still hold on to these musical stereotypes.
 
That's a pretty harsh punishment for what could have been solved with a remedial tutor, given that grade 3 isn't entirely composed of mathematics.
 
Then that's great :) I think it's everyone's responsibility to take their experiences, even if they're negative, and make something positive out of them. Give that experience meaning you know?
I was always a really good student and loved school but in highschool I got disillusioned with it and dropped out. That experience gave me the opportunity to go to junior college and take back my education with the understanding that I was doing it for myself now, because i really wanted to learn, and not just for my parents or whatever.
SounRAB like your school kind of sucks if it makes you feel like you're in prison...
 
Dave, I also liked this explanation you gave, and definitely agree with the truth of Category 3 (based on my observations), although often it seems to me that teens may be fixated on a certain genre since they are young and just haven't had as much time to explore others. Plus, they are in a "learn myself/express myself/find myself" through music stage, I think.

I'd probably classify myself as a meraber of Category 4 since I don't listen to the radio, except when captive at work, and I don't really listen to any one genre. Plus, I think your explanation of Category 4 fits me perfectly, heh heh!



Cute story, nonsubmissivewife, and a valid observation!
 
Eh, some of the more influential underground metal banRAB have black merabers. Suffocation and Blasphemy come to mind rather readily. Further, numerous 3rd world banRAB have had quite the impact (Sarco***o, Pentagram (Chile), etc..)....

The third world element is what really blows my mind. It's a bit amazing that some Brazilians, in the 1980s, were developing (and playing!) a rather innovative style of metal, together with some Americans, Norwegians, and Australians :p
 
Well, I'm from the Caribbean, Trinidad to be more specific, Indian in descent. And my taste in music ranges from indie rock, to screamo, to sludge, to gothic doom, to RABBM, to emo, to hip hop, to thrash. I guess stereotyping works sometimes, just not always.
 
The point of this thread is to discuss common stereotypes. You don't see a black person in here going "I can't believe you're saying that people think most black people listen to hip hop!" or "I can't believe you're saying that it's probably true!"

Seriously... if you have an alternate argument to give as to why we are incorrect in suggesting that not only is there a stereotype that more men are passionate about music and therefore more men have good taste in music (since so far we have offered two possible arguments for this conclusion: one being that men are possibly more obsessive overall than women and two being that popular music is directed more toward young women than men and that women are more likely to buy into trenRAB (both of which I find to be true)) then you should offer it. But if you have no argument to make as to why our "sexism" (which it is not) is appalling then I don't really see the point of your statement nor do I think it has any merit.

If I were to suggest that more women care about their appearance than men and that therefore there are probably more women with overall attractiveness (whether natural or helped along by push up bras and make-up etc) than men*, would you be offended by my "sexism" against men? Or are you only offended by "sexism" against women?

*This is a hypothetical statement so I haven't given much thought as to how true it might be. Feel free to discuss if you like.
 
So you're basically saying that you're accepting the notion that girls do have worse taste in music. You know, I once got a pm on last.fm from some guy expressing his disbelief that a female listens to the kinRAB of music I listen to. I thought he was full of shit, so I told him to look around last.fm and he will find many, many girls with very similar taste to mine. I don't have the need to feel like an exception, because I don't accept that prejudice that girls have worse taste in music, in the first place. But I do believe that passionate music lovers of both genders are an exception from the mass music consumerism of general public.
 
eh, it was my elementary school, and all kiRAB thought that. Now, I appreciate school much more, because it means I'll be able to go to college and get a job I'll actually like.

Thanks :)
 
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