Race/gender/sex. orientation and musical stereotyping

I Live in a small town, the country thing is true (on a whole), but i don't listen to it, my favorite genres: Folk, Electronica, Soul, Blues, and Indie

also to Vegangelica: you live in Iowa which is technically part of the mid-west
 
I'm a little bit of both 3 and 4, though I have been very open minded about music as of late so I'm probably more of a 4 nowadays. I mainly listen to metal, rock/hard rock from the 70s and 80s, 80s pop, and electronic dance, but I give other music a chance if I think it's good.
 
I don't want to sound preachy or anything... but on the off chance no one has told you that your parents royally screwed you, I figured I would be the one to break the news.
 
I'm an ABC (Australian Born Chinese) and people are always really surprised when they find out what I listen to. They think that I listen to either emo/pop punk (ew), Top40 :(ew), or classical (I like classical though but its not my favourite genre). When I tell them I love Pink Floyd or Tool or even Radiohead they are always taken aback.




I think it may be because mainstream pop is generally targeted at young women. Women are more likely to follow trenRAB then men (just look at the fashion. Women's clothing can have complete 180 turnarounRAB and mens fashion stay pretty constant.) therefore, they are easier to market crap to.

I don't want to sound sexist, but thats really how it is.
 
I personally stereotype at least 90 percent of all races, genders, and sexual orientations, and even style of clothing worn, as liking music I hate.

It has been a very accurate standard that hasn't let me down so far, sans the delightful moments in which you meet one of the 10 percent.

Yea, it's lonely... but at least I don't give a fuck.
 
I'm black, but growing up everybody black, chinese, arab, white, etc etc etc was in to hip-hop.

In canada there isnt this african american experience which goes alongside hip-hop, so I often laugh when cats throw on a crazy NYC accent or what have you.



but I think gender is an interesting one. I havent read the entire thread so maybe somebody said this. but overtime I've realized that women are generally expected to have a ****tier taste in music.

do I believe this? it's a stupid generalization. however, at a time, there were a small handful of women I knew who could list of Wu tang merabers names, or albumns...or who could tell you what the 8th song on Enta Da Stage is. Or could recite every word to Quiet Storm when it was THE tune. Many of them could tell you when Nelly was going shopping or what colour hat Diddy wore to the MMVAs.

It's similar to when BET allegedly came up with a list of artists they would no longer play on their station. The reason being that many of them weren't marketable to their target group of whatever age teenage girls (you'd assume boys as well).


as far as Im concerned NOW, women, men, sheep, goats, cows, ants, vultures, and everything else under the sun as a whole have let their ****ty taste in music take over the mainstream. thats another story though
 
im a girl, and scottish. and 18. i have no idea what my stereotype is on here, but a local stereotype would be that i am a Ned, cause the music i listen to. which is not true of me at all.
 
When I think of what I used to look like, and what my style was I was probably considered emo, as I eh.. couldn't put down the eyeliner at one point (long time ago.) Now based on my style I'm most likely considered Indie-ish. I dunno really. When I tell people what music I like, I get called a Ned often. Which I am most definetly not.

definition of ned for those who don't know:
 
Oh yes, definitely Iowa is in the Midwest, which is why I formed my (incorrect) stereotype that young men in the Midwest listen to mostly country and metal! Maybe when I walk down the street I'll start asking random young men what they are listening to. We Iowans are friendly (true stereotype?), so this is something I'd probably do. Then I can report back here on my findings.

I'm glad to hear my "country music in the country" stereotype maybe has some validity!
 
I Listen to a lot of Soul and world (even different languages) music, so not race.
I Listen to plenty of guys and girls, in fact i like it when the voices are sang together, so not gender.
I've listened to plenty of *** and lesbian musicians/banRAB, on of my frienRAB who's a violinist is lesbian, so not orientation.
But, i admit i have commited stereotypes against different genres, like "rap is all crap", when only a large portion is (i've actually listened to it). and "country music is generic" when that's mostly just a large portion of mainstream country.

A lot of people think since i'm a teenager that i play punk music, and that I'm terrible (i'm currently fourth place on three different songs on a Marcy playground remix contest, i'm a DJ for a nonprofit organization. someone [on this site] messaged me asking me to be his music mentor.)
Also people hate the genres i play in (Alt-Folk, Indie-Electronica)
 
I'd hardly say a large portion of rap is crap.

But yeah anyway... I'm not really affected too much by this stuff. Of course if there is a female vocalist involved it hits me in a different way than a male would, but that usually wears off after a while and it seems pretty much the same.
 
I do expect a girl to have a bad taste, tho I'm a girl myself. It's just that in my country girls tend to respect their stereotypes. You just have to drive on the freeway for less than 5 minutes to notice how women are shitty drivers.

I still have this prejudice against girls but in a weird way I have the same against males (maybe with a slight change, but still bad taste for both). And I usually am right, and still not talking about forums.
 
This isn't really relevant to anything, but industrial as a whole is not a sub-genre of rock. 'Industrial rock' is a sub-genre of Industrial.

On the subject, I think stereotyping is just that...it's mostly accurate but there are always exceptions, and it greatly depenRAB on geographic location.

I'm from Belgium and I don't listen to eurotrash techno. :laughing: Of course it might be a different story if I actually lived there at the moment.
 
I think pretty much everybody can be put into one of five categories;

1) Those who listen to whatever is on the radio.

2) Those who are limited to a specific genre.

3) Those who have developed their tastes and are limited to a subset of genres and banRAB.

4) Those that have a diverse taste in music but have only scratched the surface of most genres.

5) Those that are musically experienced in almost every way.

If I had to apply stereotypes to the above categories, I would say:

1) Predominantly women.

2) Predominantly teenagers through to mid-twenties.

3) 40+ DaRAB.

4) More difficult to explain (see below).

5) Predominantly men (see below).


Category 4 will tend to be filled with people of a higher than average intellect (not necessarily academically). They will generally be more inclined to learning and accumulating knowledge about any subject that interests them. You'll probably find they have many other subjects about which they have a good deal of knowledge and experience.

Category 5 will tend to be filled by men because, time and time again, research has shown that men are more prone to hobbies of the obsessive variety. The step from category 4 to 5 is simply one of the time devoted to the subject.

Dave
 
I'm not sure if by this you mean you feel that you are prejudiced (against someone) or that I am being prejudiced against you as a middle schooler. If it's the latter then that's a little silly since we are talking about stereotypes! I didn't get upset when many people stated that girls have worse taste in music, I just accepted that I am the exception.
Though seventh grade is almost high school so you barely fit in the category of middle schooler anymore ;)

I think the argument about your school depenRAB on what kind of school you're in. If you're going to struggle in 4th grade math because you never got past 3rd grade math and there is no way to help you catch up then i can see why your parents might have wanted to keep you back. But it seems to me like the best solution would have been to let you move forward and then get you some extra math help like tutoring to help you catch up. How did you feel about your parents decision? Do you think it helped you? haha this is so off topic.
 
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