R.I.P FTN or not?

This is nothing like ScT.

Yes, there was a push for donations last month, but that could be the reason why paypal decided to look into the account.

There are less than 5000 members on the site. That means that the server costs are relatively small. The 300% (3X) that small amount may have brought in a couple thousand dollars- hardly enough to close a site that has been built and staffed for the past 4 years...

This is a short-term problem that Brandon believes he has already solved.
 
From today onwards I am going to start a census,go to all forums,make a big list and give you the conclusions.Dude all the discussions in the forums are there to see for the members and anyone can prove me wrong if what I said was shit.You dont have to be a staff there to read the discussion threads and know what people think.You are blind by the fact that you are not indulging yourself apart from the few friends you mingle with.

Detale said:
Oh, I'm communicating just fine. OK so you're "friend" knows what? You hid his name and thus removing his validity as a source of any real proof of anything. I posted my fake convo to show you how irrelevant yours was. Again without any real proof anyone can say whatever they want, get it.
Already I have said this,My aim was to show how wrong you were.The IRC convo is there for everyone to see and if the things said in the convo is wrong anyone can say so.Where as yours is shit.

Detale said:
Occasionally is subjective sure and I amm not going to argue exactly how many times they asked for money in the past 1000 years either. It doesn't matter that they asked as far as I'm concerned so turn the page on that one. The point here was people talking shit without proof so please try and keep up, thanks
hahaha,First you said they did it "1 time",then you said they did it "recently" and next you say "occassionally" and then you say the word "occassionally" is subjective and not going to argue.And you also think all this time people should shut their mouth without questioning.keep that to yourself.thanks.

Detale said:
Now you are bordering on just plain stupid.
Saying this at start of an argument definitely gives you an upperhand :yup:

EDIT:
Between this is what I am saying:
Tokeman said:
What do you want, reciepts and SS's of bank statements? Theres no easy way to proove any of this without exposing sensative information. If you didn't donate, its none of your business. If you did donate, then you put your trust into the tracker staff to do what is appropriate with the donations as they see fit. If you don't trust the answers given, as said before, delete your account. Problem solved.
pal,I dont want to see anything nor am I interested in the least bit in ftn or what they do.All I am saying is people wont stop saying shit or whatever until their mouths gets shut by a definite answer.Unless/Until anything is proved no one can say to STFU to anyone.
You just cant shut people's mouth or ask them to STFU.They will continue what they do until they get proof.If the tracker shows it or not is upon the tracker so is what people say.
 
deadalive said:
If a person doesn't like how a tracker is run and/or feels the need to start threads about it everywhere complaining about said tracker then man up and ask for your account to be disabled/deleted, instead of whining and complaining about it, it really is as simple as that.......
So what you are saying is,if a tracker is doing questionable stuff,all quietly delete their accounts and dont talk about it anywhere?lemme ask you one simple question:Why shouldnt people discuss and ask questions?and who is whining and complaining here?isint this a discussion about the steps that FTN has taken and if you agree or not?Or cant we even do that?
 
new update on the front page

From abou1t an hour ago...

Update: We believe we've managed to sort something last minute, however we'll still need funding for this next month since our previous funds are frozen. I'll update you guys further on this tomorrow, but it looks like we might just pull through this. Thanks for your support

Glad to see you took the time to read other posts :blink:
 
And there you go right over the edge into tard valley.

Wow you really do have oo much time on your hands there. I could care less about what kind of census you come up with dude, really. Yet agan you are missing my point. If what you said was shit or not it irrelevant. Whoever that IRC convo was with it still proves NOTHING. "To know what people think"!? So now you're psychic also? Those happen to be the posts you read and if I didn't have a life either I could go around doing a census and get stats to prove my points as well, gratefully that's not the case."You are blind by the fact that you are not indulging yourself apart from the few friends you mingle with" Is this even English?? Wow you really must be psychic to know I only have a few friends, and how do you know I mingle with them at all? I'm not blind to anything I just don't enjoy biting the hands that feed all of us.

My aim was to show how wrong you were.The IRC convo is there for everyone to see and if the things said in the convo is wrong anyone can say so.Where as yours is shit.
Well your aim was apparently off. The "IRC convo" meant nothing at all. It proved nothing other than you spoke with someone who gave some answers. Good job tho. Now you keep referring to "MY" IRC convo being shit, dude anyone with any sense at all knows it was a fake, a joke to show that yours was just as irrelevant as a made up one. Get over it already.

First you said 1 time,then you said recently and next you say occassionally and then you say the word occassionally is subjective and not going to argue.And you also think all this time people should shut their mouth without questioning.keep that to yourself.thanks[\quote] OK now, You really need to pay attention this time as it will be last I address of this. YOU CAN CALL IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU LIKE I DON'T CARE! It's OK for trackers to ask for money if they need it. Hopefully you will read it this time, in fact I'll write it again so you don't miss it again.

YOU CAN CALL IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU LIKE I DON'T CARE! It's OK for trackers to ask for money if they need it
 
Hey guys,

I felt I'd make this a new news post so you were all aware in case you don't use the index page as your bookmark.

The good news is, we're still here! We've setup a new paypal account, and were loaned the money for the server that was supposed to go down today.

So what happens next? Well.. Since we had to start with a fresh account and our previous funds are frozen in the old account.. we've pretty much got 0 funds, so ftn is now in your hands. If you can help, we'd absolutely appreciate it. Please don't feel obligated though, at the end of the day this is still just a website and I don't want ftn to be the cause of you going hungry. But keep in mind, we need to pay our bills before the first of May.

Thank you in advance for your support, and for keeping your fingers crossed.

Now lets get back to normal!

~B


PS: We're working on a solution to prevent this from happening in the future. Also, we're aware of the error you might be seeing. We're experiencing some latency issues right now, but they should resolve themselves.

:shutup:
 
You started by saying others should stop speaking if they didint know what actually was going on in FTN.I said unless/until FTN gives some sort of proof you have no right to tell others to STFU.If FTN gives proofs or not is upto them.If they decide not to,people will continue to speak what they speak.From there on it escalated where you tried to defend FTN while I tried to prove my point.The difference being you got personal while I was raising my points and arguing about the reasoning/answers why people should stop talking shit while FTN themselves are not ready to shut their mouths.I am not saying people who talk shit is the right thing to do,but without hard facts shit talking cant be stopped.There are just so many things to talk shit about when a definite answer is not given.And you dont have any rights to say to "stop shit talking" because you yourself have no proofs/reasoning to keep them quite.

Detale said:
Sure you have addressed many of my points until that last post, where you were speaking nonsense. Asking me what valid points I have just shows that you really have the attention span of a grub.
Oh,wait!who asked that first?
Detale said:
Ok Andy, now you don't even have a single valid point
oh!found it!Detale it is.

Detale said:
A man of my position talking like a fanboy?? What "position" do you mean? I did staff here sure but now I'm nobody. For you to call ME a fanboy is really just stupid dude. Our disagreement aside, I staffed HERE you have no idea how many tracker staff members hate you simply for being staff here. I have lost accts on trackers over it and in many cases been put in the middle of greater bullshit than this due to that fact. Through all of this I still don't hate tracker staff as a whole as some ex/current staffers may. A blockhead??? Really? What are you 6?? Also you need to look up the word libelous
That is no excuse for defending a site blindly without any sorts of reasoning behind it.I called you a blockhead because questions like the below just keep coming from you and it seems you dosent comprehend somethings which is clearly obvious to anyone reading it.(eg:irc convo where my aim was to show about the donations in FTN)
Detale said:
Who did FTN defame or slander here?
Who said FTN did that.All I said was(hate quoting again and again)
AbyBeats said:
I dont want to see anything nor am I interested in the least bit in ftn or what they do.All I am saying is people wont stop saying shit or whatever until their mouths gets shut by a definite answer.Unless/Until anything is proved no one can say to STFU to anyone.

Detale said:
A word of advice as I'm pretty sure I've been at this longer than you. Get rid of your sense of entitlement. Trackers, shit people in general, don't owe you anything.
Again I have to quote from what i said before
Abybeats said:
Detale,First of all when a site asks for donations like countless times repeatedly,the tracker in reality is run by the people who donate.Without money the tracker dosent exists.And you say "the tracker dosent owe anything?".If this was the case of what.cd I would have said they owe nothing but FTN?

Detale said:
I do have a question for you, just a question no hidden meaning. What tracker is your favorite? I'd just like to know what standard you are going by while bashing ftn all this time.
Animebyt.es is my favourite tracker.And I am not bashing ftn duh.How many times should I have to say that?I am saying "shit talkers wont stop shit talking unless they get any sort of proof to stop shit talking".zzz
 
Give me one good reason I should do that.This whole discussion was a reply to Detale.If I feel replying to something in the GFT thread which I would like to question,I will.I dont need your help in that.Also,I can clearly see from those statements that you havent read this thread and what I intend to convey.No interest in you whatsoever.And a general trend in people like you I see is people like you label anyone who questions or have a difference in opinions into trolls/shit talkers.Typical Staff complex.

and When addressed what you commented here
AbyBeats said:
deadalive said:
The funniest part about this all is the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question. Or they have been banned or disabled or whatever and look for revenge, so they get other individuals all riled up and sit back and laugh at the drama that was created....
What kinda stupid logic is that?First you say "most of them asking these question or shit talking are still members of the site" and then you say "the people who complain or ask these loaded questions are most of the time not even members of the sites they attack/question".So by the looks of it,both ways no one can ask questions?wow,please keep that to yourself.thanks.
And explain to me why a person shouldnt be a member of the site if he complains?I can say the ratio system in BitmeTV sucks(ratio system in most of the sites are lame),that means I should stop using BitmeTV?Isint it because people complained so much that the ratio system changed in What.CD?You you dont want other people to talk?start a tracker with the rule "Rule#1: Dont talk anything about the tracker".And then you can ban people for speaking up.
you are dodging the question by calling it ignorance.Is that the new trend now?If you cant answer dodge it with some stupid words?
People who are members shouldnt question,people who are not members shouldnt question,People who are banned or disabled also shouldnt question.So according to who is that who can question?Would like to know.

deadalive said:
Oh and P.S. I do run a tracker and we've been around almost 6 years now lmao, so much for what you know........
I know that very well.But the tracker dosent have such a rule like i mentioned.does it?I think you need to implement it,because you seem to dislike questions and is only good at passing smartass comments or make a tracker like that.
 
Brandon (if you're reading), if you haven't yet opened a new pp account successfully, just speak to other staffers, there IS a way to do anonymous paypal, it's tricky but it's possible. PM me if you want some info, I myself have worked it out successfully. Wouldn't be surprised if others have already contacted you with the info you need to get a (new) paypal (account) working again, if you haven't already done so.

Let it die prick.Brandon and FTN scam of torrent world.
 
I'm sure they'll hit the 100%. But if staff doesn't loosen their tight grip around those invites, or restart the invite app process, to get some new blood, I have no doubt that the same tune will be played on the news page this time next month.

Something needs to change over there(there are so many great ideas being thrown out in the forums, but nothing being done). If not I have a feeling the site won't be around much longer, unfortunately.
 
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I'm sure they'll hit the 100%. But if staff doesn't loosen their tight grip around those invites, or restart the invite app process, to get some new blood, I have no doubt that the same tune will be played on the news page this time next month.

Something needs to change over there(there are so many great ideas being thrown out in the forums, but nothing being done). If not I have a feeling the site won't be around much longer, unfortunately.

+1 exactly
 
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