PTN is going bling bling!!??

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Polarbear said:
Of course it happens. That's why I prefer unrared content. No rars, no corrupted rars. You said that you prefer rars because it makes it easier to replace corrupted rars. That doesn't make any sense at all. You prefer a method to replace an error when the method itself is the reason for the error.
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OK, I'm assuming you've never had a problem with the actual download itself? Not the files on the release per se?

If I'm grabbing rar's I can identify which rar file(s) it was and grab them elsewhere... it may have been the original files, it may have been a problem with the download itself... either way I don't generally worry about it as I've better things to do, I just find another release, grab the replacement files and 999 times out of 1000 the problem is solved.

Much preferable to downloading a single unrar'd file, prob with the download and you have to grab the whole lot again... doesn;t happen a lot, very rarely in fact, I'll freely admit to that but it still happens.

You do it your way, I'll do it my way and we'll both be happy. Maybe I'm set in my ways, but I've always gone with rar'd files and never had any lasting problems... why fix it if it ain't broke? :)

You're not wrong, I'm not wrong... we'll never change each others minds. If you have an over whelming desire to be 'right' then you carry on if you feel like it :lol:

All I asked was why someone preferred unrar'd to rar'd as I thought they were on about the whole 'space' issue...
 
So PTN is V2 now. I like it a lot. It looks great and is very customizable from what I've tried. Also the categories' icons look shweet. :lol:

The problem IMO is that the site allows rared movies, which is strange for a movie site IMO. And now the main problem, a large portion of movies are rared there. Which means the ratention is not as good (at least from my POV) as it could have been. Unless you have a lot of really dedicated seedbox users willing to let these movies stay on their boxes for a long, long time...

Anyway, I got offtopic, do you guys like the new look?
 
You prefer rars because when rars are corrupted you can download them again? When the files are unrared before uploading there wouldn't be any corrupted archives in the first place. Think again.

Files are rared because they're spread with multi-threaded FTP transfer within the scene. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bittorrent. The Bittorrent protocol splits every file in chunks anyway. Rared or not.


TraLaLa said:
The download / upload speed isn't it increased if the files are rared ?
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No.
 
I like PTN , especially now when they moved to V2 .
It is a great tracker , pretty huge choice of movies and nice community. I wish the International forums section could be more active , but PTN is great enough
 
Polarbear said:
You prefer rars because when rars are corrupted you can download them again? When the files are unrared before uploading there wouldn't be any corrupted archives in the first place. Think again.

Files are rared because they're spread with multi-threaded FTP transfer within the scene. It has absolutely nothing to do with Bittorrent. The Bittorrent protocol splits every file in chunks anyway. Rared or not.
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This. Also I don't like the players that support it. Call me l33t if you will.
 
I'm not a member but I assume since it's a movie tracker pretimes aren't that important. How do they justify the rars? They aren't needed at all for Bittorrent.
 
There are too many functions on browse.php which makes the downloading procedure is more difficult. I just want to admin it's realy beatifull but sometimes minimalism isn't that bad :) peace.
 
Burnsy, if you ever download a corrupted file, it's because the source was messed up; not the downloaded copy. The protocol alone checks for file fidelity more than you can imagine. If you have a problem, it's probably a corruption that happened during the transfer from the FTP to the site you're downloading the content from.

Hombre said:
i like simple and minimal things
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When was the last time you changed your signature, again?
 
well, a lot of people prefer scene content to be rared. So, we couldn't completely ban packed releases. However, at the same time we have made it abundantly clear that unrar'd releases will be preferred over rar'd..and are encouraging our members to take some time to unpack scene content and then upload 'em.
Packs by default are unrar'd.

PtN is still a work in progress.. with a detailed category system like ours, most auto upload scripts struggle with filling in the details required on the upload page. Once our coders get enough time to work on the auto upload script without compromising on filling up requisite details, expect more unrar'd releases.

We understand how important unpacked releases can be for a relatively small site like ours, and its long term effects in improving torrent retention. We are working on improving things to the best of our abilities.

//Peace
 
There is no advantage of rar'ed over unrar'ed and vice versa, however, there are a bunch of myths. The bittorrent protocol already has inbuilt parts/pieces management, and checks for corruptions. Arguing that p2p is anything like scene necessitating rar'ed releases, is just turning a blind eye to the protocol's great developers. Upload/Download speed is only limited by the bandwidth and how overloaded your ports are. Given the fact that most torrent clients "thread" based on how many connections you allow, as opposed to how many files you are downloading; there is again, no advantage to either unrar'ed or rar'ed, since they both will be split up into relatively equal sized chunks (even the 14/50mb chunks are too big for most BT parts).

Back on-topic:

I actually like the new PTN a whole lot. I wouldn't say the new theme(s) is (are) necessarily the best thing that could have been designed, but at the same time they were a fresh breath. As I'm not a fan of extremely dark themes, I moved back to the bday theme, however, I still appreciate that bit of work. The new features are bloody awesome, though. I'm not a part of many trackers that care about the intricacies of movie information (similar movies/director page) as just happened here. Movie grouping on TBDev made me chuckle a little bit, too; I assume it uses an online movie db that would screw up should the db goes down? If so, I'd feel safer knowing there was some way to archive the pieces of the db necessary to keep the system together.

As I already mentioned once on their forums, I don't like inconsistencies; three different icon sets at work (browse page set, movie banner set, movie page download set) is just overkill, but I can understand not wanting to let someone's work go to waste, after developing the icons. I'd think no matter who the someone is, though, they'd feel they got paid much more respect by having a specific choice in peoples' profiles to choose their icon set to be the standard. I wouldn't mind expanding any icon sets myself, if necessary, to get a better more professional consistency across the pages.

Also, totally unrelated, n00bz0r: you staff on there? :O
 
So is this just yet another site making some minor changes to TBDev, installing a new 'hip' theme for the header, tables and buttons, adding some ugly javascripts for hovering, and calling it 'v2'? :pinch:
 
ringhunter said:
Burnsy, if you ever download a corrupted file, it's because the source was messed up; not the downloaded copy. The protocol alone checks for file fidelity more than you can imagine. If you have a problem, it's probably a corruption that happened during the transfer from the FTP to the site you're downloading the content from.
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That's fair comment, all I know is that in the past I've more than once downloaded a single file (avi or whatever) and it's either crashed or have had some other problems watching it (and yeah, this was a while ago from public trackers). I'll fully accept that it was probably a problem with the upload and not the download... the point I'm making is that I tend not to worry about it, and by using rar files it's a lot easier/quicker to replace... I do what I do now by stuff that's happened in the past. I used to think there was possibly probs with the download itself, I stand corrected if indeed that's impossible

I know that the protocol checks and checks time and time again, although tbh, and not being a very 'techy' person I've never looked far into it at all, so will accept what you say as I've nothing to offer on that... One thing I will say though is that uploading 20-30 torrents a day to some trackers makes it impossible to unrar them all to check them before uploading them (while trying to also have a life too :lol:). It won't be the first time I've had to search for a 'damaged' rar file to fix a download, so it's a fair balance for me :)
 
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