"Prophet Mohammed Lovers"

Biggles said:
Hmmm

Lots of religion on the internets these days - we should all get a nice big beer and sit down and discuss it sensibly :)
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Can I suggest the local Labour Club as the venue, failing that there must be a ludge with a function suite we can hire.
 
no it isnt one sentence , i answered what this guy reclaimed that the begining of the koran siad . but the main faith of islam is :
is to believe that there is only one god and believe in all his messengers as moses juses , mohamed and other which we dont know about , and believe in all his religions and not to diffrentiate between any of his books and messengers
any questions ?
 
moslem01 said:
lately some astraunats discovered some rocks with some shape on moon surface
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Well.... I'm not convinced. Some rocks with some shape you say? Sounds a bit suspect. :mellow:

If I were asked to perform a miracle, I'd probably opt for something of practical value. Turning water into wine is pretty good for livening things up at a dull party, also the loaves and the fishes one is really useful for when people forget their packed lunches, but I can't see what use splitting the moon and putting it back together is.

Maybe it delayed high tide, or something else, I dunno. Either way I doubt whether anyone noticed.

Terraforming the moon, now that would have been a good one.

Anyway, I've been digging around with regards to that picture of that 250km "scratch" you pointed out, and as far as I can tell, although it is a "relatively young" feature on the moon, one website has pointed out that there is cratering within the walls of the rille, so that probably dates it at a few million years, not like, 600 or whatever.

I can't find anything on the NASA site, perhaps I should take it on faith? :blink:
 
I was thinking more of the original succession back in the 8th century when there was fighting over who was going to be Caliph. The Shia have an annual remembrance in Iraq to recall the blood of their martyrs (or something else) and the return of the hidden Imam. It is a bit like the Catholic Protestant thing in Christianity. A bit of fighting to begin with and now in most countries they get along fine but there are one or two areas where old rivalries still flare.
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the fight wasn't on who to be caliph ... the fight was a conspiracy.
shea' weren't part of that fight , shea' appeared after those fights .. and they mourn the death of thousands of Muslims in Iraq in vain in those fights.
 
u have the right to say what u want but in my faith which my god says in soraa el tawba : to kill anyone who disbelieve in the existance of god and disbelieve that mohammed is the messenger of god .
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That's not what the verse mean :(
the verse talk about the time of war and about pagans who worship stars and statues not about people of the book.
it says "kofar" which means people who deny holy books and it talks about time of war cause in the end of this verse it says "till the war ends"
so it talks about time of war not in all times.
add to that in many verses of quran allah ordered us to treat people kindly
"لايناهكم الله عن الذين لم يقاتلوكم فى الدين ان تبروهم"
Allah don't prohibit you to be just and kind to the ones who don't fight you in fact Allah orders you to be kind to them cause he likes his believers to be kind and just.
that's what quran says.
more to add
"you will find that Christians are more kind to you cause there are among them priests and monks whose their eyes weeps when they listen to the words of Allah and who a have sensitive hearts and kind souls"
this is another verse in quran
so saying that we order to kill the non believers is a total lie. we are ordered to tell themm about islam and to let them choose the right thing for them.
the reason we faught Romans and Persians that they killed the messengers who sent to them asking to enter their territory for preaching.
Even in the war prophet mohammed ordered us not to kill the priests not to take churchs and turn them to mosques not to force people to enter islam.
it all written in the books of islam even the radicals know that.
in the quran
Allah says" if a pagan-not even a man from the people of the book-ask for your help you must help him and stand by him till he is safe and then tell him about islam and leave him in peace"
any one woh doesn't go by quran or listen to prophet mohammed teachings is just a radical muslim and actually we can't consider him muslim.
 
chalice said:
Maybes it's 'cos I'm stoned, but I'm totally getting the correlation between Silent Bob and my Swamp Thing avatar.

If it was intentional, then JP, I salute you.

If not, then my imagination > the internets.
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Proper Bo said:
feel free to correct me but according to gewgle:

And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are afolk who know not.

and:
And they observe toward a believer neither pact nor honour. These are they who are transgressors.

i see no mention of killing:unsure:
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They make the killing bit up :dabs:
 
Thanks for that.

Re the Worship part I meant do both groups have the same services, times to pray, traditions. That sort of thing really.

Who did the other group, the suna, believe should lead.
 
Is it true that at the beginning of the koran there is a warning which roughly translates as.

*Anything which doesn't make Mohammed look good has been omitted from this book.''

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