Prayer vigils outside abortion clinics - do you support or object to them?

If, God forbid, your wife was raped and got pregnant would you "want" her to keep the baby? Would your wife "want" to keep the baby?

I think there are a nuraber of situations where abortion is "acceptable".

I do think it should be more difficult.It seems to me that at the moment almost any reason is good enough for it to be done.
 
why only answer one of my 3 questions?

does rape justify murder? I'd argue that a few cells that are not able to sustain themselves are much less of a life than something like a cow that we happily kill for food. Obviously at a certain point in the pregnancy this changes. which is why abortion is only allowed up to a certain point unless the womens life is endanger. Forcing a women to carry on with a pregnancy for another 8 months after being raped is abhorant to me.

Believing that it's a fully fledged life at conception and thus murder is pretty much a faith only position and so it seems unlikely that your view isn't coloured by your religion.

Are you also consider the morning after pill murder? in the cases where it prevents implantation of the erabryo in the worab?. Obviously (well at least I think so) it's not in the majority of cases where it just prevents ovulation. Of course we don't really ever know which case has occurred.
 
See this is why abortion is such a difficult subject to discuss, within the first page someone has already called it murder which by any definition of murder is total rubbish.

Yes it's emotive but lets not make it something it isn't before the subject has even got going.
 
I don't know. My instinct is that I would not, but I couldn't know for sure until I was in that position. In that situation my opinion would count for absolutely nothing and I would accept whatever decision my wife made. When I said I am pro-choice, that extenRAB to my wife as well.

I'm not sure why you are asking me that though - I thought I was pretty clear that regardless of my personal feelings, I believe that everyone should be free to make their own choice, given the circumstances they're in.



I'm not sure what you're basing that on? I know a couple of girls who have had abortions and it ranks as the hardest thing either of them have ever done.
 
As I said to Kav, I'm a bit busy so short on time.

It's a cop out to write off my opinion as faith-based. It simply isn't true. I see no difference in killing a child inside the worab or outside.

Dave, I know you're a police officer and so my use of the term murder may irritate you! But as I said above, I see no difference in killing a child regardless of location!

Just my opinion.
 
That's the thing though, at the stage of development that abortion is lawfully allowed, it's not a child, it's an erabryo. Calling it a child implies that it would be possible for it to survive outside of its host, and that's why the cut-off for abortions is where it is.
 
That's a bit of a silly response if I'm honest.

Perhaps my phrasing was ridiculous (apologies) but the point remains. I don't see why killing a child within the worab is acceptable.

I honestly think that abortion is one of mankinRAB most abhorrent inventions and I'm shocked at how many are supportive of it.
 
DepenRAB on your definition of a child. Whether or not it is legally defined as a child, it is alive and will survive to become what the law classes as a child, unless someone intervenes to kill him/her.
 
Do you agree with abortion when the women's life is endanger by continuing the pregnancy would have been a one word answer.

a 3 week old erabryo is about the size of a tip of a pen, that isn't a child.

I'm not saying your position is completely faith based, I'm saying that believing it's a fully fledged life from conception and thus murder of a child is pretty much a faith only position. There is plenty of non religious people probably even the majority that for the most part think abortion is a bad thing (though most understand it can be the best choice from a bad situation) but I don't know of any non religious people who believe abortion (especially early abortion) is murder of a child.
 
Other 'valid' reasons for abortion in my eyes could include an improperly forming erabryo meaning zero quality of life for the child it would become.

And no I don't mean abortions just because of a minor disability.
 
Apologies, missed that.

Yes, I believe it can be acceptable in that situation. Taking a life to save a life essentially. Difficult question though. From a faith point of view I'm not sure. But in my own honest non faith opinion I probably wouldn't object.
 
It's ridiculous because you have reduced the whole debate to "it's a baby at conception, abortion is murder".

Therefore debating with you would be a total waste of my time as you refuse to even accept the most basic of facts. You also mistake acceptance for support, (intentionally I might add). I don't think anyone could support abortion as it's abhorrent.
 
I'm neither for it or against but I support the right to choose, my thoughts are

" it's about the person/people affected by the abortion and their welfare and that over-rides your or anyone's opinion of right/ wrong"
 
This isn't a debate about whether you object to abortion or not, it's whether or not you object to the actions of the protestors.
 
So, hypothetically - if abortion became a crime (murder).

Those who would have chosen abortion for a variety of seemingly 'valid' reasons will be forced to give birth to the child.

These unwanted babies would be given up for adoption/foster care and overload an already inadequate care system. It would be difficult to find a family for these babies let alone those with severe medical conditions which affect their quality of life.

Abortion seems pretty humane to me. If these 'prayer vigils' are what I think they are, I'd consider them harassment and 'might' object to them. As Dave just said they are entitled to their right of opinion .. hmm

Does masturbation equate to genocide?
 
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