[Poll]BitTorrentTrackers Staffers to be paid or not to be paid ?

Maybe I mistyped my point , My point is the current system isn't fair because some staffers do deserve money , On the other hand some people are paying money excepting that their money is to keep their favorite site alive while the money goes to the pocket of sysop ( like SCT , TL and pham and others ..) alone while others are doing hard work too and they do deserve getting paid for being helpful and spending so much time to deliver you the best content .
So yep a salary is a bad idea but what's happening now is even worse and who knows who is going to run away with money next ?!
 
chrisbeebops said:
If you look at the Allan Ellis case, one of the main reasons he got off is because he was accused of making a profit from Oink, but when looked into further, it was clear he did not.
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This is just a general statement. If it's a large site, you have no choice but to often be sitting with large sums of money, and even if it's a smaller site, sometimes you might have built-up spare funds for upgrades and so forth, but the less money the better, just on common sense grounds. I say, if you can avoid it, it's good, because it can only help in legal situations. But if you've done nothing wrong (in terms of raking in money), and the court does a fair inquiry of it, then yes, you're fine even if youre dealing with huge sums of money...such as alan ellis.

The other reason for me is just that money corrupts, and the less of it around the better (this is a very broad statement and not inferring anything like 'i wouldn't even trust myself'...lol). For me it's like something a site owner has no choice but to deal with, a necessary evil and a dirty part of the job. I'd rather that nothing cost anything and thus no money had to be handled.
 
Yes .Why ?
No .Why ?
List your thoughts and what will be the impact of paying staffers on the torrent communities .In my opinion being staff in a major tracker with thousands of members takes a lot of time and needs special set of skills so in someway staffing can be defined as a job . This idea came to my mind after what happened with SCT and PTP founders as they both stole the donation money so I looked into that from another way which is building a strong and a secure torrent website consumes a lot of time , effort , technical and non technical skills , so these guys deserved something in return ( not saying that I agree with building a site to steal donations and run away ) but suggesting that donations system should be changed to let members know that If they pay 10$ 4% of them will go as a salary for staffers and in return members should expect a high class level of staffers who can keep the community tight and come up with new creative ideas .
Let the debate begin.

PS : I am not a part of staff of any existing torrent tracker , though I was once a year ago .
 
I think a salary would be really questionable, and I doubt any of them would want that anyways due to legal complications. Regarding selling upload for money and keeping extra donations for themselves, I don't have a problem with that.

If the site is good, I'll use it regardless. I'm not some sucker that is gonna donate to every site just for the hell of it though, and if I was one of those people I might feel different.
 
Some staffers are already accused of using donations for their own purposes without this "system". You can imagine the amount of negative feedback should this be implemented on almost any site.
 
I think they should do whatever the fuck they want, if the site owners sees fit, go for it.

I mean I get paid for my job... which is a fucking crime cause its wayyy to enjoyable, so why not them.
 
Salary for staffers? :dabs:
Last time I checked, people (who eventually become staffers) get involved with sites coz they enjoy interacting (and helping peeps along the way) while feeding their piracy needs and taking time off their busy (or not?) RLs.

Being paid for a job facilitating piracy of copy righted material and eventually profiting from piracy is absurd. It'll create more problems than it'll solve. so, 'nuf said.

Hope common sense continues to prevail, for its an entity which is getting rarer by the day..
 
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First you have to implement a structured pay hierarchy at a tracker.Lots of luck with that ."Hey how come Johnny gets more than I do just because he's x position when I do more work?" This isn't Dow chemical .You are basically dealing with kids here .Kids who btw haven't by their very involvement in such illegal activities probably don't have a clear concept of what is just or fair.
Then you are going to have to set what the ( donation) market will tolerate which most places is apparently next to zero anyway.
Then you are going to have to try to convince members why they suddenly need to pony up more money given that everyone involve managed to do the job perfectly well before without any remuneration.
I sympathize with staff as it no doubt can be at times a very difficult and time-consuming proposition but let's get serious here.
 
anon-sbi said:
Some staffers are already accused of using donations for their own purposes without this "system". You can imagine the amount of negative feedback should this be implemented on almost any site.
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Well in this system it'd be transparent at least. If I knew staff were being paid from my money, I'd still have the option of donating (or not). The difference is I'd know up front that not all of my money was going towards the site.

I think it'd be a terrible idea to accept payment as a staff member. Any leeway you'd have if you were ever taken to court would evaporate if you were seen as profiting off piracy.
 
Torrent Trackers like Isohunt make profit. Therefore, whether staffers get paid or not, 'facilitating piracy of copy righted material' is already something that people get profited for.


n00bz0r said:
It'll create more problems than it'll solve. so, 'nuf said.
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Torrent Trackers like Isohunt are completely legal at the same time. This means that the only problems it'd create are merely complaints by people like you. Also, these 'problems' still don't depend on whether or not the staffers get payed.


ca_aok said:
I think it'd be a terrible idea to accept payment as a staff member. Any leeway you'd have if you were ever taken to court would evaporate if you were seen as profiting off piracy.
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This is not a reason why staffers shouldn't be allowed to get paid, but rather some kind of advice towards staffers. Not really an argument.
 
There are some truly great staff in the community whom I would be very pleased to see get compensated for their time and efforts, however; the truly great ones aren't doing what they do for money.

It's kinda like politicians- anyone who seeks power and money isn't fit to serve.
 
megabyteme said:
There are some truly great staff in the community whom I would be very pleased to see get compensated for their time and efforts, however; the truly great ones aren't doing what they do for money.

It's kinda like politicians- anyone who seeks power and money isn't fit to serve.
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Nicely put!
 
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