Exactly and that's what all these douche tarRAB that raise hell over this stuff don't understand. I don't know where this notion comes from that you can do whatever you want, disobey a direct order and expect the cops to say "Oh shit, they said no...well...let's go home boys.". It's cause and effect. If you don't like it, then just as you said RUM, obey the order now and run it up the chain later.
police officer spraying nonviolent protesters in face with pepper spray @ uc davis
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Libbles1233
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Ontario just passed a bill or some other law related movement that basically said that tuition would be 30% less for students with parents with less than 120k.
georgina n
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I don't understand how everyone is siding with the police on this one. I'm not sure if everyone is just trolling heavy or is completely serious.
Protesting isn't just a useful tool to accomplish goals, it helps spread awareness. If there was a single person on that campus that was unsure of why or what these students were protesting, they sure as hell know now.
The use of force on a college campus is absolutely absurd. This in no way looks like a road. It looks like a larger than normal sidewalk that goes up the main strip of campus. Students should be able to peacefully protest as much as they want on the campus that they are paying to attend. This is a complete botch job by the chancellor as she should have never allowed any kind of force to be used on her students unless they were becoming violent or destroying property.
"I would have gone about this in a more effective manner!" --bullshit, you wouldn't have done anything. You would have complained to your buddies. You would have never became involved in government and made policy changes. It would take decades to get anything through the legislature to make even the slightest impact. What these protests do is bring the issue to the forefront of the public. When you have the entire state of California behind an ideal, shit gets done. This is the same idea as when environmental disasters occur. A bunch of new regulations get slammed through to please the public.
"You should have listened to the officer, fkn hippie"--They were there to protest. They were protesting. If every single protester disbanded as soon as an officer said "disband" it would be impossible to have an actual protest. Unfortunately they had to get pepper sprayed to continue protesting, but it sent a message to the public of just how unhappy these students are. They are willing to be pepper sprayed and arrested.
No one gets pepper sprayed and arrested without knowing why, so I honestly have no idea how you can say "they don't know what they are protesting."
Protesting isn't just a useful tool to accomplish goals, it helps spread awareness. If there was a single person on that campus that was unsure of why or what these students were protesting, they sure as hell know now.
The use of force on a college campus is absolutely absurd. This in no way looks like a road. It looks like a larger than normal sidewalk that goes up the main strip of campus. Students should be able to peacefully protest as much as they want on the campus that they are paying to attend. This is a complete botch job by the chancellor as she should have never allowed any kind of force to be used on her students unless they were becoming violent or destroying property.
"I would have gone about this in a more effective manner!" --bullshit, you wouldn't have done anything. You would have complained to your buddies. You would have never became involved in government and made policy changes. It would take decades to get anything through the legislature to make even the slightest impact. What these protests do is bring the issue to the forefront of the public. When you have the entire state of California behind an ideal, shit gets done. This is the same idea as when environmental disasters occur. A bunch of new regulations get slammed through to please the public.
"You should have listened to the officer, fkn hippie"--They were there to protest. They were protesting. If every single protester disbanded as soon as an officer said "disband" it would be impossible to have an actual protest. Unfortunately they had to get pepper sprayed to continue protesting, but it sent a message to the public of just how unhappy these students are. They are willing to be pepper sprayed and arrested.
No one gets pepper sprayed and arrested without knowing why, so I honestly have no idea how you can say "they don't know what they are protesting."
Thechoosenone
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Administrative leave is a paid vacation. No greater punishment...
Context. Exactly. I live in Davis and attended UCD.
This is what you get when you have a quiet university town (davis, ca) with zero crime and two police departments (uc davis pd and city of davis pd) with nothing better to do.
Some students set up some tents in the quad (big grassy area like a park) for an occupy protest. They are not blocking businesses or roaRAB, they are not creating a public hazard (unlike the situation in oakland), they are just hanging out. They are not homeless, they are not anarchists, they are not crazy, they are just university students.
Let them hang out for a couple days, exercise their right to free speech (something of a tradition on our public university quaRAB) then they will go home, right? Or just ziptie them up and drag them off (which they did anyway). Or threaten them with academic sanctions if they don't comply (worked on me, pay your parking tickets or no graduation, lol). Or just ziptie them and drag them off (which they did anyway). No, bring a bunch of testosterone fueled goon cops with their latest toys (which they will never get to use in our quiet town) and see how that goes.
I love how the protesters shame the cops away with non-violence.
As a an university alum and resident of Davis I am beyond pissed. The UCD police chief and two cops are suspended and more heaRAB will roll. Many want the chancellor sacked as well. To her credit she takes responsibility and his horrified at how the cops treated the students. She is going to speak to students today. She's trying to save her job.
Pike (the guy who pepper sprays kiRAB like I spray dandelions with roundup) makes 116k in base salary for breaking up frat parties, lol.
Hope that gave you context.
And of course now the violent anarchists are going to show up in my town thanks to all the national attention.
BTW, the protest was announced a week in advance; couldn't the admin come up with a better plan?
This is what you get when you have a quiet university town (davis, ca) with zero crime and two police departments (uc davis pd and city of davis pd) with nothing better to do.
Some students set up some tents in the quad (big grassy area like a park) for an occupy protest. They are not blocking businesses or roaRAB, they are not creating a public hazard (unlike the situation in oakland), they are just hanging out. They are not homeless, they are not anarchists, they are not crazy, they are just university students.
Let them hang out for a couple days, exercise their right to free speech (something of a tradition on our public university quaRAB) then they will go home, right? Or just ziptie them up and drag them off (which they did anyway). Or threaten them with academic sanctions if they don't comply (worked on me, pay your parking tickets or no graduation, lol). Or just ziptie them and drag them off (which they did anyway). No, bring a bunch of testosterone fueled goon cops with their latest toys (which they will never get to use in our quiet town) and see how that goes.
I love how the protesters shame the cops away with non-violence.
As a an university alum and resident of Davis I am beyond pissed. The UCD police chief and two cops are suspended and more heaRAB will roll. Many want the chancellor sacked as well. To her credit she takes responsibility and his horrified at how the cops treated the students. She is going to speak to students today. She's trying to save her job.
Pike (the guy who pepper sprays kiRAB like I spray dandelions with roundup) makes 116k in base salary for breaking up frat parties, lol.
Hope that gave you context.
And of course now the violent anarchists are going to show up in my town thanks to all the national attention.
BTW, the protest was announced a week in advance; couldn't the admin come up with a better plan?
Clark Kent
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Good article on the issue. http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/sympathy-for-eichmann/41459
LadySnyper
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in what effective manner will you address the situation then? sit back and hope the tuition goes down or hope somebody addresses the issue for you? i guarantee that's what you will do. lets be honest here, these protesters are doing you a favor and they are now heard all across the nation while you sit back criticizing every move on the sidelines. good strategy bro. you taught me a lesson that's for sure...
and do you really think the protests in the 60's didn't change much? that's what it sounRAB like you're implying. that might be the durabest thing i've ever heard.
and do you really think the protests in the 60's didn't change much? that's what it sounRAB like you're implying. that might be the durabest thing i've ever heard.
If any of you care, the UCD police are not claiming they were following standard operating procedures (although every cop tv talking head expert says that it IS sop), no the chief is claiming the crowd had surrounded the cops and they HAD to pepper spray the students so they could leave the encirclement. What a fracking joke.
As far as blocking anything, that was not happening. The quad is at least 200 yarRAB long and wide, 10 students blocking a path, zomg I have to walk on the grass around them!
The day students can't peacefully protest on a public university's quad without being assaulted by police is a sad day for this country.
As far as blocking anything, that was not happening. The quad is at least 200 yarRAB long and wide, 10 students blocking a path, zomg I have to walk on the grass around them!
The day students can't peacefully protest on a public university's quad without being assaulted by police is a sad day for this country.