Please?

I've never said I consider him as a bad person, quite the opposite. We're just talking about following the rules, something he hated the ones who didn't, when at the same time he wasn't following someone else's rules.
I also don't consider a trader or, even worse, an anti-trader, as bad people either. They're just choosing their path, one breaking rules, the other ass kissing.
 
I can only make judgments on what I have seen myself...If you don't share the info or proof then your post is useless...

Rart said:
...To be honest, I probably would have respected you better if you had just said that you had hunted traders in an attempt to climb your way up the BT ladder. At least in that regard you had a specific and ulterior purpose in mind when you were deceiving other users. You had mentioned that you had already acquired all your "dream trackers" before hunting traders and that because of that, you were simply only doing it for the pleasure of catching traders...
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Actually I said...
It is not something I do/did all the time. When I had free time (it has been 2 months since I have captured anyone's IP). When I was particularly irritated with traders (bold, brazen, and stupid ones). I was already in the trackers people "dream" about and therefore had nothing to personally gain. Which was in part why I chose to do so...It irritates me to no end people who cheat their way in to sites I belong to. I earned trust, made friends, and was pleasently surprised via email or PM...Why can't they? I have made many friends in this forum and others and have always tried to give a helping hand when able and possible.

Here comes a brutally honest answer as well...I take some personal satisfaction beating them in their "cat and mouse" game of trading. They have no issue causing probs (yes, I am generalizing) at trackers and I therefore have no issue in causing probs for them...
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I don't like the idea of people cashing in on piracy(just look at how fort knox turned out) and of course I don't feel comfortable around people who don't have respect for privacy.

I know FST mods to be extremely reasonable and it kinda beats me when not only one but the trinity as a whole is against you.That if anything discredits your appeal 10x more.
 
The things you guys were doing, whille i was shagging my girlfriend. wow! seriously, theres ppl outside.

"I WAS A MEMBER OF LEVEL 9 AND 8 SITES LONG BEFORE I ever caught, chased, or reported the first trader."

No level 10 ? thats why u started to chase ? caught ? report ?

Did u get that level 10 ? and then retired, and than comeback to fst ?

I voted i don
 
Karid said:
And he couldn't do this, in a much easier, effective, and anonymous way with a new account he makes and lets sit for 30 days?
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Probably because everyone has lines that they aren't willing to cross.
Just because bumrocks felt it was OK to do what he did doesn't mean he considers what you're suggesting to be acceptable.
 
Well, honestly I have no idea what your motives were for hunting traders. Most people here hate people who hunt traders only so they can get into those hard to get into trackers. I have to agree with them.

A whole other thing is if you were doing it cause one of the staffers from some site asked you or if you were even staff somewhere.

Anyway, I have seen you around and not only are you an active member, but also an uploader at at least one site (with quality uploads I may add). That says something about you, but what says more is that you seem to be a man of your word from everything I've heard. So my vote is yes.
 
bumrocks said:
BUT I had nothing to do with you being ousted or whatever probs they created for you
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Alright bumrocks but cmon.. that's what all you guys say(I couldn;t do anything about it) .
Even if you weren't the one who was takign action, you witnessed it happening and yet you didn't even speak against it at least or question their proofs.

I guarantee you that if I(and I'm sure many others) wintessed somethign similar to what was going on in my case, I'd speak against it right away and give the victim a chance to explain himself.

You guys watched me getting banned from every tracker out there and decided to mind your own business as long as it didn't affect you.

Fuck it though, I guess not everyone is built the same. Have fun out here boss
 
I didn't create the poll...Why wouldn't you vote for yourself?

The_Martinator said:
Well, honestly I have no idea what your motives were for hunting traders. Most people here hate people who hunt traders only so they can get into those hard to get into trackers. I have to agree with them...
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It is not something I do/did all the time. When I had free time (it has been 2 months since I have captured anyone's IP). When I was particularly irritated with traders (bold, brazen, and stupid ones). I was already in the trackers people "dream" about and therefore had nothing to personally gain. Which was in part why I chose to do so...It irritates me to no end people who cheat their way in to sites I belong to. I earned trust, made friends, and was pleasently surprised via email or PM...Why can't they? I have made many friends in this forum and others and have always tried to give a helping hand when able and possible.

Here comes a brutally honest answer as well...I take some personal satisfaction beating them in their "cat and mouse" game of trading. They have no issue causing probs (yes, I am generalizing) at trackers and I therefore have no issue in causing probs for them...

IdolEyes787 said:
No .
I don't like being lied to and even less when it's from a person who is supposedly a friend.I also believe it is a greater "sin" to be duplicitous while feigning a moral high ground.
Also I agree with Martin most people do that kind of thing because they believe it will advance them in the bt hierarchy and by both your history and associations of preference I believe that was the case with you.The sites and people you have gravitated to are not entirely lost on me.

Btw @ Martin uploading isn't necessarily an altruistic thing either .

Is there a possibility that I am misjudging you? Of course, but since you yourself didn't see any gray areas or allow those that you reported any leeway or even as you have been given here a simple chance to plead their case, I think it is highly hypocritical to expect any in return...
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I actually thought I would not see a post from you. I am about to ramble aimlessly, btw. This one I didn't expect. Personally, I have always liked you and guess I will have to resort to just just respecting you. I have always done the exact opposite of lie to you. I have stood up for you when NOBODY else would...I am at a loss as to how I have lied to you? I WAS A MEMBER OF LEVEL 9 AND 8 SITES LONG BEFORE I ever caught, chased, or reported the first trader. If you can find where I did so more than 64 weeks ago than I shall be shocked, amazed, and will then have to call you a liar/fabricator. As a matter of fact my first IP was captured on Decemeber 5, 2008. The user here was akwrz. I log everything...The point being is that you can think or assume I tried to make friends for personal gain, but I already had friends.

The ones I reported were straight busted...There was no guesswork in the process which I used. There was nothing to plead. My true hopes was that they learned a lesson, for the noob trader, and total grief or irritation by the hardcore. Some of these people are ones I would actually mentor afterwards or at least try to. I can provide additional info on this. I have always been here to help or hinder...I prefer to help.

Whatever ill will you have for me, I apologize. There are things I can't say here and hope that you PM me elsewhere. I will not PM you and impose myself on you but hope to hear from you...
 
bumrocks said:
For the record...I have no interest in having access to the trade section. Giveaways possibly since I do like, and am able, to help people.
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so your against trading cause its breaks site rules, yet you willing to break them by doing giveaways? :lol:

lets hope you get reported, should you do any :P
 
bumrocks said:
Actually I said...
It is not something I do/did all the time. When I had free time (it has been 2 months since I have captured anyone's IP). When I was particularly irritated with traders (bold, brazen, and stupid ones). I was already in the trackers people "dream" about and therefore had nothing to personally gain. Which was in part why I chose to do so...It irritates me to no end people who cheat their way in to sites I belong to. I earned trust, made friends, and was pleasently surprised via email or PM...Why can't they? I have made many friends in this forum and others and have always tried to give a helping hand when able and possible.

Here comes a brutally honest answer as well...I take some personal satisfaction beating them in their "cat and mouse" game of trading. They have no issue causing probs (yes, I am generalizing) at trackers and I therefore have no issue in causing probs for them...
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I don't see how that changes the validity of my post at all. Care to elaborate/respond to the rest of my post?
 
sez said:
I know FST mods to be extremely reasonable and it kinda beats me when not only one but the trinity as a whole is against you.That if anything discredits your appeal 10x more.
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Sometimes I play devil's advocate, and this is the case right now. I'm fine with whatever the community as a whole wants. If it's a 50-50 vote or something even remotely close then obviously I would side against due to the fact that alot of people do not want the trader hunter to get pms back. If the community fully wants his account to get fully re-instated then I'd support that.
 
IdolEyes787 said:
If you want to talk about only seeing it one way I'll vote for letting bumrocks have his privileges back if you can get one of the trackers that you are associated with let one person back in who knowingly broke one of their most fundamental rules.

It that doesn't sound fair then just let me give out your IP to random people here and that will do.
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How does me pointing out that the statement I quoted could be applied the same way in the opposite direction, have anything to do with the threat you made of handing out my IP address?

If you support trading that's your right to do so, my right is to believe as I see fit for myself.

And on your question, when Person A gets into a tracker they agree to rules of said tracker. When Person A then proceeds to ignore said rules and then trades that account to Person B, they violated said rules of the tracker.
Now, when Persons A + B do it on a forum that condones it, but then gets pissed off when someone hunts said traders because according to their rules it's ok to trade yet NOT ok to have said traders be hunted (in essence protecting them), we know which group is preferred.

If the staff here decides someone doesn't get a second chance because of violation of THEIR rules then that is their right to do so, as it is for the staff who have accounts traded of their trackers.

I actually know a few people who have gone that route and had their accounts enabled again, whether it be because of a second chance or a change of heart on the account holders end, so it DOES happen albeit not frequently.

I, personally haven't hunted anyone here, I know better as I know how protected they are here. Hell, that's mostly the reason why FST lost a shitload of Reps from trackers here and along with it's credibility.

Not at anytime did I threaten you or even was I talking to you, yet you felt the need to cleverly word a threat about my IP address, and yes it was a threat no matter how you may of worded it...
 
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