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Tapering DOES work for some. However I could just never do it. As far as the cold turkey.....the key to that is being able to be free of ANY responsibilities. Your absolutely right about trying to take care of kiRAB while going cold turkey. DON'T do that. It could be dangerous for the kiRAB. As I posted, opiate withdrawals won't kill ya....just seems like it. If there was a way for you to become responsibility free for 10 days, I believe you could do the cold turkey. As for your question about cutting in half what you were taking......you bet that's good. If you can take even a tiny bit less a day, that's good. However, I don't believe there is any way out of feeling SOME withdrawals.
 
Hey again,

I just saw your most recent post after I sent my first post. I am so sorry, it makes me so sad to hear you are crying!! It's going to be okay! BE STRONG... we are here for you. I know it is terrible. I had bad w/d thru my whole taper and if my butt can get thru it so can you! I promise. Take a HOT bath and some benedryl... Try to sleep thru this.. I know it's bad... Keep hyrated.

I am praying for you!!! HANG IN THERE!
 
BCKPN

Your first post describes the difficulties I went through exactly, similar amount of meRAB etc... Waking up in the morning was hell, 12 hours without the meRAB and hell starts to creep in. During the day, 8 hours without meRAB would allow hell to break through. I was off meRAB for a year and am now in same situation, about 10 percs a day (5/325). I just had back surgery and am in dire need of pain relief.

It is O.K. to make mistakes, you need to be very kind to yourself. This is nobody's fault, it is simply part of life's lessons. Personally, I think cold turkey is the better way. I went through 4 -5 days of hell. Then it's over and you have done it!
Perhaps try the taperig 1st and if you can't do it, go with cold turkey.
You do have us to lean on. Good luck.
 
It's not even the physical stuff that is getting to me....it's the massive anxiety I am having. I can't stop crying and I feel like my chest is tight as hell. I can't be totally upfront with the PM doctor either and that is stressing me out.

I wish I could suck it up and go CT, but with 2 small kiRAB, no way! :(
 
I have been on percocet 7.5/325 for about a year for back issues. I started at 1/day and am now up to 4/day. They were not as effective so I began taking more and more and I got to the point that I was taking 10-11 a day. I realized this was insane so I immediately went back down to 5/day and am trying to get off all together now. I'd rather deal with the pain than have my body dependant on these meRAB. The problem is I am waking up very early in the am in full blown withdrawal and I am now dreading going to bed because it's so hard to wake up to that. I didn't have this issue obviously when I was taking many more. How long will this last? My plan is to get down to 4/day next week and decrease slowly (by 1/2 pill) every 2-3 weeks. is this a good plan? Am I going to be in these withdrawals every morning? I am so depressed this is happening. I want to be DONE with these meRAB :(
 
I am so glad you did! That is great! I am sure the psychiatrist will really be able to help!

I am so glad the xanax is helping for now! That is good. If you do have PPD then that should be addressed and dealt with so I am so glad you made the appointment. I hope you get thru the weekend with MUCH less anxiety and can hold on till Monday because there will be help!

You take care and I will be thinking of you over the weekend. Make sure you keep us updated!
 
Today's update:

I woke up in a full blown anxiety attack AGAIN and decided to take 1.5 pills vs 1 and a large dose of xanax which worked, but kicked me on my butt and I slept for 3 hours :eek: Woke up feeling really good and was able to stretch my next dose for 7 hours. I know the anxiety will creep in by tonight because I dread going to bed and waking up in w/d......

But...the good news is that I have gone from 10-15 pills (saturday was my last day of that) to 6 (starting Monday) to 5.5 and hopefully today 4.5!!!! That's good right?
 
Milksnake is right on point, Bckpn. You should have a plan. Ct may not be the way for you. No one is knocking tapering, you have no idea how much in the middle of ct wRAB I wished I had tapered. I just didn't have the patience. I felt like ct was the quickest way to get out of the whole thing, so I grabbed my nose and jumped. Milksnakes advice is whole and on point, truely consider it. Good luck, stay strong.
 
yeah - if I had 10 days to have help....I might be able to do it (maybe) but I would so much rather do a taper. I mean...it was only a month I was on such a high dose! before that it was 30 mg perc per day. Right now all I have are norco...so I am hoping those are enough to get me through? I have my appointment next week and plan to be upfront with the PM doc and tell him I want to taper. If my girls didn't need me so much, this would be a no-brainer, but they need their mama.
 
well......I couldn't take the taper, it was causing WAY too much anxiety! I checked into a 5 day detox and it went GREAT! I am now 10 days free of the opiates and feeling great. A little "blue" perhaps and still having night sweats, but overall, GREAT!! I highly recommend anybody trying to get off these meRAB getting into such a program. It saved my life!

Thanks for all the help!!
 
I too had a lot of anxiety and emotions that went along with w/d. I finally broke down and called my Dr. and she gave me 10 xanax to deal with that end of things and it did help a little. I am not sure if that is something you can do or not.... I just know that I would have never made it to work everyday without them..... She only gave me 10 though and when they were gone it sucked!!!!!!

I hope you are feeling better.. Give us an update.
 
Dear Bckpn, I wish I could be of more help. I can tell you what I know from my experience. I have never tapered. I have gone cold turkey. I am very interested to know if your plan will work. I do believe a slow taper should work. The question is of course how much will you suffer and/or will you suffer? Can you trick the body? It wants it's stuff. Can you mentally stay disciplined and on schedule? All good questions.
I would write it all down on a calendar and put someone else in charge of the distribution of pills. No matter what stay on track. Eat, sleep and exercise as much as possible. Even force yourself. Slowly taper and see what happens. You can always change your mind and go cold turkey. That's 10 days of pure hell, 10 days of much better than pure hell, after that you gain ground real quick as long as you stay off the pills. Good luck, blessings. Stay on board, I would like to know how it goes. I will be more than willing to help.
 
Whhhhhhy do I feel this crappy tapering? Am I going to go through this everytime I decrease? I can't stop crying...is this normal?
 
Well...I made an appt. with a psychiatrist for Monday because the anxiety is so bad...and I think it's fear of going off these meRAB (even though I am 100% committed to doing so). I think I have also had PPD since my baby was born last year and the pain meRAB covered that up.

Anyway, I am taking xanax for now (just .125 mg) and it's helping a LOT! Hopefully she can help me on Monday!
 
WOWOWOOW!!!!

I am SOOOOO Proud of you! What great news! I am so happy for you! Keep doing what you are doing and you will be so much for the better! The "blue" feeling for me lasted about a month, went away for a little while and now I have a lot of anxiety and depression again for some other reasons and the addiction issue.... So... DepenRAB on how you normally are how that part of it will affect you.

I just am so happy for you!!!! YOU DID IT! What courage that must have taken to have checked yourself into a detox! WOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!

So happy you have given yourself a whole new lease on life!
 
Welcome BCKPN,

You are in the same boat we all have been in. It's not a great place to be but there IS a light at the end of the tunnel and it sounRAB like you have the right attitude.

Your taper plan sounRAB good. I tapered and I had w/d for 3 weeks straight.. Some days were worse than others but it did come to an end and the fog cleared and over 100 days later and 1 stupid slip under my belt... I am hanging in there!

You are not a bad person you are just in a bad place right now but you are not alone. We are here for you! We look forward to getting to know you more. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. I am Secrets by the way! Nice to meet you!
 
Thanks!! :D

It seriously was great. They gave me meRAB to make me comfortable for the first 24 hours and then I went on a 4 day suboxone treatment that took away almost all WD symptoms. By the time I left, I was off the suboxone and, like I said, still have a couple of lingering things, but not at all interfering with my life.

I was really impressed with this place!!
 
Thank you so much for responding. I had a full blown anxiety attack this morning about all of this. I tried one day of just going cold turkey and I couldn't do it. I am a SAHM to a 1 and 2 year old and know I just can't care for them in that state and my husband can't take time off for this (although he would love to). I absolutely know I am dedicated to this - NO MORE. I was taking more to get the same feeling and found myself taking them when I got stressed etc...I quickly realized this was NOT good and stopped. I want to get back in shape and eat better and have a good quality of life back. I haven't eaten in 3 days because my body is just rejecting food right now. I plan to talk to my pain doctor next week and come up with a plan. My experience with tapering off anxiety meRAB is that I need to go slooooooow, my body really has an issue with this and I really had no idea when I started taking percocet that there would be a physical dependence like this. I knew there was potential for addiction, but not this.

I talked with my husband and he is managing giving me a "daily" allowance (even though I am 100% dedicated to this and do not want to take any more than needed - I don't want to go back to feeling w/d after 3 hours like I was. Now I can make it 6)

This is just so upsetting....
 
hello bckpn..... well, seems ya got yourself addicted to pain killers. Ok, first off, don't panic. Gettin off these things IS doable, ok? AND, the opiate withdrawls WILL NOT kill ya. I was strung out on oxy, (the little white pills without tylenol in them) for about 14 years. There at the end, I was taking about 3, to 400mg a day. Indeed, I was a mess. Like you, the withdrawals woke me every morning. Of course I had the pills right there on my night stand next to me. Like subtrain, I never tapered. I tried, but it just didn't work. So......cold turkey it was. Now understand, everyone is different so as far as the question, "how long does withdrawals last" has a bunch of different answers. I can tell ya how I went about quitting, and maybe you can get some pointers. First thing I did was make a plan. You see, I looked at this as an event, and in order for an event to take place, you need to plan it out. First thing I had to do was set a date to quit, and schedule some time off work. I knew I wasn't going to be in any shape to take on any kind of responsibilities while I was going thru the withdrawals. Then came the hard part......telling my family what was going on, and I was gonna need their help. After all the shock wore off, they came around. Ok, the date rolls around and here we go. In my experience, days 1 thru 4 were the worst. Felt really weak and just hurtin all over. Also, I must have used 347.5 rolls of toilet paper. I got the Hershey squirts something terrible. Once I got past that, I started feeling a little bit like a person again, and my mind was easing down outta the fog. Day 5 i got up and hit the exercise bike and the treadmill. I was still weak but forced myself to do it. Then day 6 was alot easier exercising, and I felt like I just had a bad hangover. Each day got better and better. By day 10 I felt pretty much like my old self. Now, again, everyone is different so your "down time" as I call it might be different. I stayed clean for 12 years after that. So why am I here today? Well, Feb. 17th of this year I had a hip replaced. While in the hospital, I was givin morphine and oxy for the pain. I was sent home on the 25th with scrips for oxy. I'm still taking them for the pain, and will continue until this hip heals up. Soon as the hip quits hurtin, guess where I'm goin......yep, gonna cold turkey it again. I aint really worried about it this time around tho cause I know what to expect. AND, i also know the great feeling of being clean.
As far as your legitimate pain, talk to your dr. Tell him/her your concerns on addiction. Ask about alternative pain management. I hope I've been some help to ya bckpn.
 
Yes- thank you so much! Here is the thing though....I have no idea how on earth anyone goes CT!! I mean, maybe if I didn't have kiRAB, but I felt like I was going to jump out of my skin, got a migraine and wanted to tear my skin off. I see so many people knocking a taper....why is that? Curious as to what the advantages are (besides the obvious being off the meRAB quicker). It was so bad that one day, I was looking up detox centers......I have already cut in half what I was taking, that's good right?

I just want to feel normal again....
 
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