PETA wants to rename it the Tempeh district.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/cityinsider/detail?entry_id=86001
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/cityinsider/detail?entry_id=86001
Pleae don't call it the Tenderloin district
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On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote:
They just can't seem to keep their noses out of peoples business, no wonder
their membership is declining... no one wants to be associated with them and
for good reason.
OB dinner is t'bone steaks with au gratin potatoes, corn on the cob and banana
cream pie.
They just can't seem to keep their noses out of peoples business, no wonder
their membership is declining... no one wants to be associated with them and
for good reason.
OB dinner is t'bone steaks with au gratin potatoes, corn on the cob and banana
cream pie.
The Bobster
New member
On 4/4/2011 8:56 AM, Christopher Helms wrote:
That's a good line because it's funny and at it's heart it's sadly true.
That's a good line because it's funny and at it's heart it's sadly true.
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:13:51 -0800, Mark Thorson
wrote:
So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
from animal advocates to out & out kooks. To think I used to admire
what they did. They haven't had my respect in years.
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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
wrote:
So, PETA doesn't have anything better to do these days? They've slid
from animal advocates to out & out kooks. To think I used to admire
what they did. They haven't had my respect in years.
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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
talkitive_kiwi
New member
On 4/4/2011 9:55 AM, Bryan wrote:
Ironic, isn't it? OTOH, it makes a lot of sense if you have the ability
(or curse) to see the world as animals do to try to make their last
moments in existence as comfortable as possible. One thing's for sure -
we should have a little more respect for that burger on our plates.
Ironic, isn't it? OTOH, it makes a lot of sense if you have the ability
(or curse) to see the world as animals do to try to make their last
moments in existence as comfortable as possible. One thing's for sure -
we should have a little more respect for that burger on our plates.
On 04/04/2011 3:31 PM, sf wrote:
I had a look at their web site a few days ago and saw a list of things
they are opposed to. One of them was pronged collars for dogs. I have
had some large and active rescue dogs for which regular collars and
choke chains were ineffective. The prongs do not stick into the neck.
When they pull on the leash the prongs go from lying flat to pressing
at about a 30 degree angle to make it uncomfortable. The lat dog I had
who wore a pronged collar loved his collar. It meant that he was going
for a road walk on a leash, and for some reason he sometimes seemed to
like walking on a leash better than running loose.
Then there is the remote electronic collar that they think is cruel.
What I think is cruel is a dog not being able to run free. My latest
rescue was a 5 year old Malinois, a very high energy dog who showed no
indication of ever having been trained. He was difficult to walk on a
leash and would not come when called, though he would eventually come
back when he felt like it. After months of training with no success, I
broke down and spent a lot of money on a remote training collar with a
1000 yard range. I needed the long range model because it wouldn't take
him long to get out of range at the speed he travels.
Sonny still gets the occasional mild correction signal. There is no way
I would let him off the leash near the house because it is too close to
the road, but when we go to back to the bush and fields he gets to go
leash free. He will heel for a while, until he is told "free" and then
he takes off for a run. He now stays within sight and, more important,
comes when he is called.
He loves that collar. He gets excited when he sees me getting ready to
put it on and he is more than cooperative about putting it on. It is a
matter of trade off. He may get the occasional mild correction, but he
gets to run free and since he loves to run more than anything else in
the world, the whole thing is a rewarding experience for him.
I had a look at their web site a few days ago and saw a list of things
they are opposed to. One of them was pronged collars for dogs. I have
had some large and active rescue dogs for which regular collars and
choke chains were ineffective. The prongs do not stick into the neck.
When they pull on the leash the prongs go from lying flat to pressing
at about a 30 degree angle to make it uncomfortable. The lat dog I had
who wore a pronged collar loved his collar. It meant that he was going
for a road walk on a leash, and for some reason he sometimes seemed to
like walking on a leash better than running loose.
Then there is the remote electronic collar that they think is cruel.
What I think is cruel is a dog not being able to run free. My latest
rescue was a 5 year old Malinois, a very high energy dog who showed no
indication of ever having been trained. He was difficult to walk on a
leash and would not come when called, though he would eventually come
back when he felt like it. After months of training with no success, I
broke down and spent a lot of money on a remote training collar with a
1000 yard range. I needed the long range model because it wouldn't take
him long to get out of range at the speed he travels.
Sonny still gets the occasional mild correction signal. There is no way
I would let him off the leash near the house because it is too close to
the road, but when we go to back to the bush and fields he gets to go
leash free. He will heel for a while, until he is told "free" and then
he takes off for a run. He now stays within sight and, more important,
comes when he is called.
He loves that collar. He gets excited when he sees me getting ready to
put it on and he is more than cooperative about putting it on. It is a
matter of trade off. He may get the occasional mild correction, but he
gets to run free and since he loves to run more than anything else in
the world, the whole thing is a rewarding experience for him.
melonpieness
New member
On 2011-04-04, sf wrote:
They were ever different?
Besides, no money in being a moderate. Jes ask scieno's.
nb
They were ever different?
Besides, no money in being a moderate. Jes ask scieno's.
nb
Barack Hussein Obama II
New member
On 4 Apr 2011 21:09:06 GMT, notbob wrote:
They first got my attention back when they were advocating for lab
animals and "milk fed" animals that were kept caged just so their meat
would be white.
Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
They first got my attention back when they were advocating for lab
animals and "milk fed" animals that were kept caged just so their meat
would be white.
Scientologist's get money because they make their members think they
are crazy and that giving money to the "church" is going to fix them.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
babycheeks(=
New member
On 4/4/2011 6:39 PM, sf wrote:
That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.
Sky
ob food: Can't wait for warm weather to regularly occur to start
bbq-ing, especially chicken
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That particular mind-set is not limited to members of scientology.
Sky
ob food: Can't wait for warm weather to regularly occur to start
bbq-ing, especially chicken
--
Ultra Ultimate Kitchen Rule - Use the Timer!
Ultimate Kitchen Rule -- Cook's Choice!!
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 23:31:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender
wrote:
Oh, oh... of course, you're right - even if they'd be wrong.
It's a conundrum, for sure. I'm a traditionalist and still like
"Tenderloin". It's always been a hardscrabble area, why change the
name? It would be like putting a wig on a goat.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
wrote:
Oh, oh... of course, you're right - even if they'd be wrong.
It's a conundrum, for sure. I'm a traditionalist and still like
"Tenderloin". It's always been a hardscrabble area, why change the
name? It would be like putting a wig on a goat.
--
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
theeblackshirt76
New member
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:18:05 -0700, sf wrote:
Abraham was a Catholic? Who knew?
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Cheers
Chatty Cathy
Abraham was a Catholic? Who knew?
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Chatty Cathy
Mister Dream Master
New member
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 19:38:56 +0200, ChattyCathy
wrote:
I don't get the connection, but rock on.
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wrote:
I don't get the connection, but rock on.
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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
buddahsister0420
New member
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:11:03 -0700, sf wrote:
That's OK.
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Chatty Cathy
"We may have smart phones, smart cars, and smart TVs, but we still haven't
invented smart pills. Usenet is the living proof" --jack
That's OK.
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Chatty Cathy
"We may have smart phones, smart cars, and smart TVs, but we still haven't
invented smart pills. Usenet is the living proof" --jack
Re: [email protected]
Bryan wrote:
Actually it follows the classic steps to mind control used by most
successful cults. That makes it more cult than racket. Before they can abuse
people for ridiculous "donations" (aka extortion via threat of ostracism
from the group) they have to find and suck in people who for whatever reason
happen to be desperate and vulnerable at that moment to mind control
methods. But I guess you can secondarily call these cults pyramid schemes
because it's certainly those at the top who get wealthy.
Bryan wrote:
Actually it follows the classic steps to mind control used by most
successful cults. That makes it more cult than racket. Before they can abuse
people for ridiculous "donations" (aka extortion via threat of ostracism
from the group) they have to find and suck in people who for whatever reason
happen to be desperate and vulnerable at that moment to mind control
methods. But I guess you can secondarily call these cults pyramid schemes
because it's certainly those at the top who get wealthy.
On 04/04/2011 03:28 PM, l, not -l wrote:
Not vegan, so PETA won't be interested.
(Not that I care what that bunch of misogynistic, hypocritical,
fatphobic nutjobs thinks.)
Serene
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Not vegan, so PETA won't be interested.
(Not that I care what that bunch of misogynistic, hypocritical,
fatphobic nutjobs thinks.)
Serene
--
http://www.momfoodproject.com
books-girl625
New member
Re: [email protected]
Sky wrote:
No doubt about that. I knew someone who got hooked by the International
Churches of Christ (a cultic spinoff of Church of Christ) and they demand a
tithe of 20 percent of pretax income, not to mention a substantial portion
of a person's time including whatever time they can get by alienating
victims from their families and friends. In the case that I know of these
predators managed to break up a family with no conscience whatsoever because
the husband was not recruitable. More often than not when a new prospective
victim is married, and typically the marriage is under some stress which is
what makes the victim vulnerable, they heartlessly and agressively try to
permanently separate the couple and suck in any children.
Once indoctrinated into a cult leveraged by fear and anxiety using the
classic steps to mind control, new victim prospects are effectively
brainwashed and can be extorted for money and recruiting efforts. This
"church" was famously called out for training their members only to recruit
"sharp people", meaning those with money, and for telling recruiters to
avoid people who do not have cars since they have no money and are a burden
on the congregation when they need transportation assistance.
Whether the victims are convinced they need any particular cult because they
have been convinced they are crazy or need to be "saved", the methodology of
mind control, aka brainwashing, is essentially the same in most cases.
Like Scientology, they have learned that the best way to avoid being
publicly and accurately branded as an abusive cult is to sue their way out
of criticism with the money which they have essentially extorted from their
victim members. They even have a similarity with Scientology in that they
have taken over at least one website/domain which formerly existed as an
expose and deprogramming website for victims who had fled.
They build mega-churches and the most insidious thing about them is that
they look on the surface just like any other typical urban/suburban
megachurch situated in rather affluent communities. It relies on more
conventional teachings and heirarchies than the space-alien-driven
scientology doctrine, but they are just as dangerous, with no more redeeming
qualities than Scientology.
MartyB
Sky wrote:
No doubt about that. I knew someone who got hooked by the International
Churches of Christ (a cultic spinoff of Church of Christ) and they demand a
tithe of 20 percent of pretax income, not to mention a substantial portion
of a person's time including whatever time they can get by alienating
victims from their families and friends. In the case that I know of these
predators managed to break up a family with no conscience whatsoever because
the husband was not recruitable. More often than not when a new prospective
victim is married, and typically the marriage is under some stress which is
what makes the victim vulnerable, they heartlessly and agressively try to
permanently separate the couple and suck in any children.
Once indoctrinated into a cult leveraged by fear and anxiety using the
classic steps to mind control, new victim prospects are effectively
brainwashed and can be extorted for money and recruiting efforts. This
"church" was famously called out for training their members only to recruit
"sharp people", meaning those with money, and for telling recruiters to
avoid people who do not have cars since they have no money and are a burden
on the congregation when they need transportation assistance.
Whether the victims are convinced they need any particular cult because they
have been convinced they are crazy or need to be "saved", the methodology of
mind control, aka brainwashing, is essentially the same in most cases.
Like Scientology, they have learned that the best way to avoid being
publicly and accurately branded as an abusive cult is to sue their way out
of criticism with the money which they have essentially extorted from their
victim members. They even have a similarity with Scientology in that they
have taken over at least one website/domain which formerly existed as an
expose and deprogramming website for victims who had fled.
They build mega-churches and the most insidious thing about them is that
they look on the surface just like any other typical urban/suburban
megachurch situated in rather affluent communities. It relies on more
conventional teachings and heirarchies than the space-alien-driven
scientology doctrine, but they are just as dangerous, with no more redeeming
qualities than Scientology.
MartyB