Paying to get into trackers?
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The Boogerman
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No, never, under any circumstance.
kyle the fun kidd
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I really didn't get most of your reply, so I'll just answer this one.
I got Ozone-T from their site. If you go to their site, it says something like you wanna be a member? Click the link, and donate.
See, I didn't have to trust my money to someone, just the site it self. Big difference
I donated to Ozoone-T cuz the site looked cool & I heard it have a really nice section of TV DVDRips seasons.
Coastie Girl
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I believe Pedro's does that. But you can also get in with an invite there. So I think that's fair. If you don't have any friends you can buy yourself a membership. I bet the people who pay to get in are the best users. That said, I wouldn't pay to get in. I'm not that desperate, and I think I shouldn't have to pay for something I can get for free (yeah I know I'm cheap).
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I totally agree with this statement. Actually, not everyone has a high bandwidth or even the chance to get a seedbox. I live in South America and there isn't any decent bandwidth here, I used to p2l on sites which accept this to mantain a fair ratio. Even though I keep seeding 24/7 it's impossible for me to get a 1.0 ratio on each torrent, and trackers which are anti p2l were a nightmare for me till I discovered the seedboxes. But I have to send the money to a friend who lives in Europe to rent the server for me because it's not available for my country. And not everyone in South America and Africa have a friend in Europe, so p2l is the only thing that could help them.
well, i really dont know what to say both for staff members and random members...
you probably talking about tracker policy cuz some ppl talked about Btmusic...
well point of Btmusic there is 20 k torrent and all of these files rip'd by their members from orginal cd.There is a rule at tracker if you will upload an album it must be your work(your rip from orginal source)...
and there is amazon advertisement at the tracker "Do you like music on our Tracker? Buy it on Amazon.com ( click! ) and support us!" and you can simple see "buy album if you can" at the end of torrent page...
well to be honest welldone to btmusic cuz they are really know what about sharing...
think about scene stealers(0-day,scene tracker) they are stealing scene's shit and uploading their tracker aftter that they are baheve like this is their own shit and if a member upload to abother tracker they're banning him/her/it look at these lol. dont steal my shit stolen by me lol.... and they're opening the donation bars at christmas and they are all giving invites to who donate tracker and after that saying ohh we are not like "X" selling invites lol. just fun there' no much...
well at least btmusic selling their own shit and there is a support link of orginal source from a dedicated selling site..
well scene always say support it if you will use it or like it and we are just doing this for fun...
and stoi you cant separate donations or tracker policy
lol.
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ofc wrong i am agree with you, no doubt i just wanted to mean at least
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you probably talking about tracker policy cuz some ppl talked about Btmusic...
well point of Btmusic there is 20 k torrent and all of these files rip'd by their members from orginal cd.There is a rule at tracker if you will upload an album it must be your work(your rip from orginal source)...
and there is amazon advertisement at the tracker "Do you like music on our Tracker? Buy it on Amazon.com ( click! ) and support us!" and you can simple see "buy album if you can" at the end of torrent page...
well to be honest welldone to btmusic cuz they are really know what about sharing...
think about scene stealers(0-day,scene tracker) they are stealing scene's shit and uploading their tracker aftter that they are baheve like this is their own shit and if a member upload to abother tracker they're banning him/her/it look at these lol. dont steal my shit stolen by me lol.... and they're opening the donation bars at christmas and they are all giving invites to who donate tracker and after that saying ohh we are not like "X" selling invites lol. just fun there' no much...
well at least btmusic selling their own shit and there is a support link of orginal source from a dedicated selling site..
well scene always say support it if you will use it or like it and we are just doing this for fun...
and stoi you cant separate donations or tracker policy
well now its turn to Btmusic
lol.ofc wrong i am agree with you, no doubt i just wanted to mean at least
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Tx 242 MASON
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Ok but you could look at it, as you are getting the donation benefits anyway, that you are donating to get in.
before the fake page was put on our tracker, i was getting silly payments from Guest, i ws like who the hell, then 2 minutes later another email, can i get in i just donated, RAB send cash back NO.
btw silly payments i am talking
before the fake page was put on our tracker, i was getting silly payments from Guest, i ws like who the hell, then 2 minutes later another email, can i get in i just donated, RAB send cash back NO.
btw silly payments i am talking
David (UK)
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Ok but even then, they are making cash by doing it from their users work, not their work.
its still wrong in my eyes
its still wrong in my eyes
zenmaster4
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Nope, never. If I was going to pay for 'stuff' it would be from newsgroups. At least then I know I get full speed on all files available. Not gunna pay for some mystery tracker that may or may not have what I want, and it may have low seeder count on some stuff.
Filesharing is supposed to be free, and with the exception of paying for bandwidth (newsgroups) it should remain that way. Trackers only need a webserver, and they take donation from willing members for those costs, which is also fine IMO, but none were required to pay for access.
Filesharing is supposed to be free, and with the exception of paying for bandwidth (newsgroups) it should remain that way. Trackers only need a webserver, and they take donation from willing members for those costs, which is also fine IMO, but none were required to pay for access.
stoi, my personal point of view is actually pretty general.
If the tracker isn't getting enough donations for the month then this may be employed to help the tracker, even if people don't agree with this but they're just mostly members.
If they don't agree and yet don't donate at all then forget about listening to them, piracy is meant for free stuRAB but to support a tracker it's definitely not going to be free.
Pedro's has been doing it this way and I got in by donating, I've been a good member too.
What I can suggest you to do if you really have this would to be keeping a close eye of the people who has donated to get in stringently time to time.
If the tracker isn't getting enough donations for the month then this may be employed to help the tracker, even if people don't agree with this but they're just mostly members.
If they don't agree and yet don't donate at all then forget about listening to them, piracy is meant for free stuRAB but to support a tracker it's definitely not going to be free.
Pedro's has been doing it this way and I got in by donating, I've been a good member too.
What I can suggest you to do if you really have this would to be keeping a close eye of the people who has donated to get in stringently time to time.
thursdaylsr
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I think if you start a torrent tracker, you should have a back up way to fund it. Maybe start a secondary site based on something else that is open and has no legal pitfalls. Then you could try to make enough advertising money to fund both sites for half a month. And then still set a full months goal for the torrent tracker just the same.
You can't always count on your members having extra cash to donate. Look at the music industry there so stuck in there usual way of making money off of artists. And only now are they realizing they need to find new streams of revenue.
I don't claim to know the final solution to keeping a safe haven for file shares. What I do know is that, putting a tax on site memberships will effect the overall torrent community negatively. Once site owners lose the passion for running there site and are only fueled by profits things turn bad. It starts becoming less about what the members want and more about how to survive and increase profit margins. All the while taxing members, until it becomes the Boston Tea Party(Revolution) all over again
Of course that's worst case but still, once you start focusing on money it's hard to stop. The easiest thing to do is to stop focusing on one way to make money and find many ways to make money. By doing this there's less stress on your site members. And yes I own a torrent tracker and use many ways to fund it.
You can't always count on your members having extra cash to donate. Look at the music industry there so stuck in there usual way of making money off of artists. And only now are they realizing they need to find new streams of revenue.
I don't claim to know the final solution to keeping a safe haven for file shares. What I do know is that, putting a tax on site memberships will effect the overall torrent community negatively. Once site owners lose the passion for running there site and are only fueled by profits things turn bad. It starts becoming less about what the members want and more about how to survive and increase profit margins. All the while taxing members, until it becomes the Boston Tea Party(Revolution) all over again
Of course that's worst case but still, once you start focusing on money it's hard to stop. The easiest thing to do is to stop focusing on one way to make money and find many ways to make money. By doing this there's less stress on your site members. And yes I own a torrent tracker and use many ways to fund it.
Deviant Fish
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I was in this situation when I considered very hard about BTMusic. And it's 20 Euro, not just 5, but I still wanted to pay to get access. But I changed my mind because I knew I could get invite from BTMusic members too.
So I think if trackers really need money and allow people to get in their trackers by paying money, it may work better if those trackers close the invite system permanently.
I've donated in about ten trackers, some for invites, some because I just love the trackers. I have no problems with that kind of things.
So I think if trackers really need money and allow people to get in their trackers by paying money, it may work better if those trackers close the invite system permanently.
I've donated in about ten trackers, some for invites, some because I just love the trackers. I have no problems with that kind of things.
But I know that trackers that allow people to get in will be hated by a lot of people. Many members will talk about those trackers with the tag "pay to get in," or "pay to get access." Sometimes, I just feel very annoyed about those kind of bad comments about P2L trackers. I support trackers about the money because they can't have server for free. I remember when ScL changed their donate system and members who donated 40 pounds could get 15GB, and some ScL members were whining and shouting at staff that it was unfair, that ScL became very bad because they allowed P2L. I was very angry but those attitudes and I thought why the f*** they were so serious about 15GB only.
The thing is almost trackers need money from members and they ask members in many ways, and pay to get access or pay to leech are just two kinds of it.
The thing is almost trackers need money from members and they ask members in many ways, and pay to get access or pay to leech are just two kinds of it.
What??
pml that is what this entire thread is about, you are confusing the fuck out of me atm mate lol someone help lol
PS: who do you think that cash goes to, the site? lol it has to go to someone to pay the bills, so how can you trust that someone when you dont know who the fuck they are.
pml that is what this entire thread is about, you are confusing the fuck out of me atm mate lol someone help lol
PS: who do you think that cash goes to, the site? lol it has to go to someone to pay the bills, so how can you trust that someone when you dont know who the fuck they are.
lookadistraction
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I believe that many would pay to get what they want. And theres also a question about how much it would cost and if it's worth it. If the tracker is that good and the only way to get in unless u spend huge amout of time doing stuRAB u dont like, then hell ye, i would pay around 40$ to get access to F*N & P**** but i would not want to risk those $40 by buying it at ebay or such.
Well i guess i'm not poor and that maybe will make some of u here mad at me. But remember this: time is money, money is time.
Well i guess i'm not poor and that maybe will make some of u here mad at me. But remember this: time is money, money is time.
harriiet x
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I would pay
Alisha Shay Shay
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:lol:..yeah..when you look at it from the money-making point of view that would increase your pocket size a lot :lol:...but i belive that's when the tracker steps out of the filesharing bussines and entering the money-making bussines...
NoNameArtist
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It seems to me that anti P2L is the result of the ultra1337ness BT community. While there's nothing wrong with it, obviously you're going to have to consider whether or not it's good value. If you're charging as much as newsgroups obviously you won't have any success, but for a small fee (even just something like 3 USD) think of the benefits to the tracker...no collectors/traders/cheaters making dupe accounts upon open signup, and a handy amount of cash to help support the site, maybe just for emergencies.
Naturally you'll lose some users who prefer to get their files 100% free, like some of the guys have mentioned before, but I think for a one-time payment (of just a few dollars) I think the tracker environment would be improved for it to be worth it by far.
Naturally you'll lose some users who prefer to get their files 100% free, like some of the guys have mentioned before, but I think for a one-time payment (of just a few dollars) I think the tracker environment would be improved for it to be worth it by far.
i would NEVER pay to join a site. my history on the sites i do use is proof that im a good member and people who are inviting can use that as proof rather then money. i have donated to a few sites but i dont decide if im going to donate until i have seen the entire site and what it has to offer, after that if i decide i like it all i'll help them with their server costs.