Paying to get into trackers?

I'm not really uderstanding what you are asking, so I'll answer the best way I can.

I have donated to get on a small tracker Ozone-T to get an invite, but the price was nothing really so I didn't mind at all.

Now, would I donate to a site like FTN/PTN you get in? Sure, I would.

But......for me to do so, I would have to really trust & believe the person who will be handling my money, and that part isn't really gonna happen. Bcuz, it takes a lot for me to trust someone in the real world, imagine in the net world.

To sum it up: Yes, I would but highly unlikely I will given the chance.
 
so why do it for Ozone-T if anything i would rather trust Brandon off FTN as i do not have a clue who runs O-T or desi T or any others that do this.

so i just dont see your point, O-T to me is not a well established tracker, to me i had never heard of it till a thread was posted here the other day, which in turn made me think about this thread in all honesty.

so i dont understand why you would do it for a tracker no one has heard off (for all i know it may be excellent, i have just nevr heard of it) rather than a well established tracker like FTN or suchlike.

To sum it up: Yes, I would but highly unlikely I will given the chance
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and hmm you did to O-T lol
 
Well if you would want to make a user to not sign up on a tracker after he gets banned there could be made a virus and but when you click the link for registration a virus to enter you're computer , one undetectable by anti-viruses , and when you get disabled that virus to some harm on your computer or to mark somehow that computer and cant register on a tracker again even with proxy , but this idea wouldn't be good if someone has 2 computers / latpotps.
 
Well maybe with SCT (but i do not know how their donation system works), but for us no, even if you do donate you cant hit and run.
 
I think paying for invites or anything like that goes against the fundamentals of file sharing (thats why im not on usenet or rapid share), also when money is involved u gonna expect a lot of heat. If there are profits to be made, u know there is gonna be someone watching, and u will become a sitting target.

Also this idea of 'stealing', i think when u start to make money out of invites, u r effectively accepting a payment for someone to use your product (your website) vizave u r simply now stealing someone elses work to make money (u r no more better then the guy selling knock off dvds to you in the street). However if u r distributing someone elses work for free because u like there work and u think everyone should share in this enjoyment, then i think its not so bad.

lol i might not of explained myself brilliantly but i hope u get jist of what im trying to say.
 
I have a very simple and maybe harsh look on all this.
I see people mentioning here that selling invites should be allowed if donations aren't met .
I believe when donation-goals aren't met, and the owner/staffers have no funds or the intention to support the tracker themselves they should shut it down.

Why would any tracker-owner/sysop want to continue a tracker that they can't afford, and that it's members don't value that much that they would donate for it. I can't think of any reason not to shut it down than.

I've ssen this so many times ... people starting new trackers and the first and most important thing is all about donations to keep the tracker afloat. Imo if you can afford to keep a tracker in the air than shut it down.

Selling access to trackers takes away every moral authority a tracker could have when claiming they don't want trading. Because selling invites means that the tracker itself is trading invites for money ... every reason to be against trading just disappears than, because selling the invites involves the same risks trading does.
 
Ok but this is not about selling invites, i do agree with your point on that, but it has nothing really to do with the thread lol

But what about a well established tracker (3+ years old), pick any, where the memberbase drops off because they are closed, recession hits (which it has) donations dries up, owner looses job blah blah blah, should they still just close, or try something different, like what the thread is about for an example.

and i am going to have to reinstate here, incase anyone hasnt got it yet, that is not BCG i am talking about, just a general question about a general tracker that may happen in the future.
 
EDIT : just read your post .. I am not a proponent of the open signup theory too .. But i would like to bring to ur notice the Example of ScL and Electronik .. The staff there are very adept at catching the the traders and disabling the traded accounts(watever technique they use) .. Secondly they give out plenty of invites to get in the new blood while continously and ruthlessly weeding out the bad ones ..
This stratergy has two advantages :
1) Since u r actively disabling accounts u always free space for new users (taking the obvious risk of bad seeds)
2) Since u give out invites actively the trade value of the same decreases .. seriously tell me how many trades have u seen for ScL and Electronik .. Since the site is easily available traders wont value it much and eventually the trading will decrease like for the above mentioned trackers
 
well I've only ever paid to get into one tracker and that was pedro's, when i got there i was really disappointed but I still DL and Seed just to keep my account so it isnt a waste of money
 
I would gladly pay to get into trackers. It would be cool if there was a pay2leech tracker that required a subscription each month/year or whatever to be a member. Like nzb indexing sites.

Just imagine how great a tracker could be if funded by all the seedboxers who, instead of spending 25-50-100 Euro a month on a server, could contribute at least some of that to the tracker's servers/seedboxes.
 
the people who buy invites from ebay and other seller sites are idiots how can somebody pay 50 euros/dollars for a invite ... you must be a moron...
 
you probably did, but everyone is going on about selling and trading invites, which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread at all, (which is typical BT, no one reads anything properly anymore) i got confused lol
 
It depends on your morals, really. If you think it is "wrong" to sell accounts to warez and other things, then it's clearly the worst thing to do. But if you're in it to be a business and profit like TL and SCT, then selling invites/accounts is quite profitable, in every sense.

Also, I doubt a true profit torrent site like TL really cares about traders. If they're selling accounts, then the only way someone can make a profit is selling it for less, and even then TL would still be making good profits, so I doubt they'd go on any hunts.

TL's staff seems to have passed first-year economics in school or something, since their business practices are a cut above ScT in a few ways. One of those ways is their VIP plan. If you pay w00t to get an account in TL, which is allowed, you're VIP. VIP allows you no waiting times, and no ratio rules. Now, that only lasts 2 months or something, then you have to pay again. If you're an unsuspecting person, and get a ratio of 0.0001 with 2TB downloaded or something, and VIP runs out, you are officially fucked. You're hit with wait times, and you only have a little time to fix your ratio, before you're banned. In this way, TL has made almost a monthly billing plan for their accounts. Smart guys, really.

So to reiterate, it's all about morals. It could be the worst abomination, or a keystone in your business model. One thing I will say, though, is if shit hits the fan in a legal sense, I'd hate to be the owner of a tracker that sold accounts, rather than a place like FTWR or FSC.
 
same here...i would not pay .You said that in this way you could get good users...but how many users do you think are willing to pay?:)...just because someone is not willing to pay for acces doesen't mean they don't have seedboxes or huge internet speeds...or just simply that they aren't good users
 
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