Paying to get into trackers?

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Manic aka Miss Murder

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Yes that isnt very good , the ones that have more money can get easier in a tracker an buy invites this way and I think to get in a tracker it doesnt matter how much money you have because there are things in life that are more important and need money , not to join a tracker , maybe when you are in the tracker , then it would be good to donate .

Also if it should be like this , there should be a limit of invites , let's say 10 per month and to be an action for them , to not be an exact price .
 
Ok why does every thread i make turn into about me and my tracker lol

Its a general question i am asking, I will not do it, I dont want to know how to keep an eye on it, I do not want to know how to go about it on my tracker, as it will "probably" never happen lol

This happens with every single thread i do on here, and then ppl say i only talk about BCG when its not even me that starts it most of the time lol
 
By making a site accessible through money u r making a site accessible to whoever who has some spare cash and allowing them to do watever they want to do with that account ..
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BTW i know i said i did not agree with it, i just love discussions about this sort of stuff, so if i do argue for it, thats just the way i am lol

Back to the quote

If you are a tracker that has built up a very good rep over the years, as the place to get in, 1 of the best places for what it does, again pick a tracker, and they just opened up, they would get about 10,000 members a day, but only about 500 of those would be unique, as in lots of dupe accounts, because they are bound to close again, once closed, sell sell sell, or trade trade trade.

so you could argue that just by opening up, or giving invites for free, we are allowing them to do what they want with that account.
 
Lovestone I am on same site but I never have had to pay a cent to any tracker to get in or get my ratio improved.

So I am against anyone selling invites even the tracker themself If I am there its because I have earned it in someway. by being a good user and getting to know the folks I am in a community with
 
before i start i will just say i do not agree with it at all, and there is about a 0.0001% chance of this ever happening with us, I wont say never but it is very very slim.

So what do you think about this, Would you do it, have you done it, Do you just not bother if they have this, If you are already in a tracker like this, do you/ would you still donate etc etc

I have been thinking about this for the past few days, again though not to do it myself, but i can see it being a way to get only good members, lets say we done it for arguments sake.
 
stoi said:
PS: who do you think that cash goes to, the site? lol it has to go to someone to pay the bills, so how can you trust that someone when you dont know who the fuck they are.
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Good point

But, its a site & I would hope a site wouldn't fuck people over being they want people in, correct?

If your site was where at sign up, people who aren't a member can become one by paying a fee. Would you fuck them over?

I'm guessing no, right? Therefor, I trust my money that way rather then someone from here or the net.
 
stoi said:
you probably did, but everyone is going on about selling and trading invites, which has absolutely nothing to do with this thread at all, (which is typical BT, no one reads anything properly anymore) i got confused lol
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Well I reread it properly, but I stand mostly by what I wrote earlier.
If a tracker doesn't get enough donations eventhough the members know it's staff/owner can't afford to support the tracker any longer, I don't see any reason why you shouldn't close the tracker.
It clearly indicates the members, nor the staff are capable or willing to invest anything in return for whatever satisfaction they get out of using the tracker. Pretty clear to me the only thing to do is closing it.

About the selling of 'memberships'. I do believe you will get a lot of scum in your tracker. There are many traders that are willing to pay for an open slot to a tracker, and trade it afterwards to get into a harder to get tracker. The moment you start 'commercialising' access to a tracker the chances of it all ending badly are far greater than if you don't.

Just my personal view on the issue.
 
Well with FTP access is the same thing , you pay .

Well I am against this but now that you said it is true that if someone donated it is a very small chance that he will cheat there because he wouldn't like to pay for nothing in the end .

And about trading , he could use the account to trade it for something but if he is caught again he loses the money . If it would be a good tracker and the acces to it would be only
 
This could work to a Owners advantage (from security perspective) if every member who donates to get in gets his entire IP range banned once he/she is disabled (assuming they have a code in place to figure out the IP even if the user is using a Proxy)

EDIT : just read your post .. I am not a proponent of the open signup theory too .. But i would like to bring to ur notice the Example of ScL and Electronik .. The staff there are very adept at catching the the traders and disabling the traded accounts(watever technique they use) .. Secondly they give out plenty of invites to get in the new blood while continously and ruthlessly weeding out the bad ones ..
This stratergy has two advantages :
1) Since u r actively disabling accounts u always free space for new users (taking the obvious risk of bad seeds)
2) Since u give out invites actively the trade value of the same decreases .. seriously tell me how many trades have u seen for ScL and Electronik .. Since the site is easily available traders wont value it much and eventually the trading will decrease like for the above mentioned trackers
 
No, I wouldn't pay anyone sort of money to get into a tracker if there was a way to get in for free. Kinda like with pirating, If I can get what I want for free than why pay money? Now, if say in the future, a network of trackers band together and you get access to all the trackers along with freeleech and other perks, than maybe. This seems to work ok for porn. Now, of course If there were a band of trackers that did this of course there would be intense scrutiny of those trackers.

The idea of trackers making extra cash off of warez doesn't sit to well with me though. If a trackers membership base had to pay to get in, I think that that tracker would be even more of a target of the feds more than now. If I had to pay for warez, bittorrent wouldn't even be an option because of this.
 
I CBA'ed to wait for a friend to give me one during that time, my father had wanted the KISS in the original CD format and he made a promise that if I got it he will get me something I've always wanted.

It's just another way to support the tracker, if it's not for the members who donate then who will be the ones paying for the server?

The staRAB themselves can pay once or twice but they aren't that rich to pay continuously.
 
On the subject of me personally paying money to get access to a tracker...no, I wouldn't. Why? Because I wouldn't be getting access to any content that I don't already have access to at another tracker. It would be very stupid of me to waste my money like that just so I can call myself a member at whatever tracker.

Now, I personally don't agree with the fact that one of my favorite trackers, BTmusic, sells accounts. But, I can say that only because I'm a member. My view may be something different if I were to be an owner of a tracker. Perhaps that greed factor would kick in where I would want more and more money, and I would then start selling invites/accounts.

So just because right now I don't agree with sites selling access to their tracker I certainly can't fault them for it either. And I think it's unfair for any other members only to fault these trackers for it too. As you really don't know what you would do until you are in that position.
 
While I don't think anyone should ever pay for access to files Many of us along with torrent downloading do pay for Usenet access. I pay the $20 a month and cant really complain so maybe it's not so far fetched an idea. I know someone will come along and say well you're paying for the news server but the truth is paying this guy or paying that guy doesn't matter at all as long as I get the goods :)
 
stoi said:
before i start i will just say i do not agree with it at all, and there is about a 0.0001% chance of this ever happening with us, I wont say never but it is very very slim.

So what do you think about this, Would you do it, have you done it, Do you just not bother if they have this, If you are already in a tracker like this, do you/ would you still donate etc etc

I have been thinking about this for the past few days, again though not to do it myself, but i can see it being a way to get only good members, lets say we done it for arguments sake.
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But the whole point of this thread is.

Would you pay to get into a site that was charging members for entry, like O-T or Desi-t if they still do it.

It was not about paying for an invite from a complete stranger or an account/invite on Ebay.

So your answer then after 4 posts, is yes you would and yes you have done, and you see nothing wrong with it.

fine, we got there in the end lol
 
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