PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

Just because you have an issue with 1 member of our site gives you no right to take it out on the 18 staff members and 15,081 members of our site. Karma is a bitch and I seriously hope you get what's coming for you.
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It's funny how he is only banned after this whole topic was brought up... Would you have even banned him if this thread didn't show up, or if the op didn't expose it?

In addition prior to his ban I had a problem with every member of the site that continued to support it, as it was supporting Child pornography.
I'm glad you have banned him, it was truly the right thing to do.

On a side note.... I don't give a :censored: who you are or who you know.
I'm not scared of you or your ineffectual threats about karma.
 
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spektormax said:
The next day Z, exodusquared and I were in a skype conversation, while Azazel was in the chat (he was NOT part of the call). After discussing more RC2 related material, I had mentioned to exodusquared that Z and I had stumbled upon Child Porn on the internet, and that I was surprised how unhidden it was. Exodus and Z mentioned that its much more likely to stumble upon Child Porn on 4chan. To my disbelief after refreshing /b a few times, I did see child porn and some links to '510chan'. I posted a link to the tread as well a copy of the links in the thread, and asked if they thought these were child porn.
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Likely story, Is that the best you can come up with and why wasn't this mentioned by exodusquared and Z days ago?
 
I'm concerned at how out of hand this situation got. I signed up to say this.

It is absolutely ridiculous to relate the two subjects that are discussed in this topic together. That's just asking for a shit load of trouble. Seriously, why the fuck couldn't this be handled elsewhere? Jesus Christ, you post on a bittorrent site about this situation? Because it relates to it? Okay, yeah, I would do something like that too, if it didn't INVOLVE what this does.

You, sir, are an idiot for doing this and hope you learned a lesson. That's to both of the main people, actually.

I actually sincerely hope that nothing comes out of this. It's gotten way too far and has put more than one person in danger. If something does come out of this, there won't be an ending. I can't see one in the near future anyway.
 
You have answered your own question...

PassThePopcron WILL be investigated. Despite their actions, I still have hope in PTP sysops to do the right thing in order to protect their members.
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If his information was never spread PTP would have never of had the possibility of being investigated. (at least pertaining to this scenario)
 
Azazel: You are an idiot. You helped run an illegal bittorrent site and max has proof of that, yet you lead the police right to him. I hope you know he's probably going to rat you out. You should probably be wiping hard drives right about now little buddy.
 
You clearly ignored the facts in my previous post that there was and is no legal pathway to take against SpektorMax based upon his actions that this entire thread is about. Even though I agree that pedo's should be punished, there is nothing that any members of the Skype chat could have done.

glados said:
The way I see it, the *founder* of PassThePopcorn is into child porn... Whether PTP staff are related to these activities or not, it doesn't matter... If the founder of the site was found to practice such disgusting activities, then the best choice of action for the members of the site is to leave and stay clear.
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Key word there being founder, he hasn't been an active member of the site in months nor has he had any other ties to it in an even longer period of time. It does matter that the rest of the staff are not at all related to the activities, because that is exactly what azazel's smear campaign is trying to claim.

glados said:
Spektormax may be arrested for such activities, and his site, PassThePopcorn, will be put at risk. If he was arrested, the investigation might even consider PassThePopcorn to be a front for child porn distribution (since the links were shared with sysops/staff of the site).
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It is not his site and there is no reason it would be put at risk. All the forum, torrent comment, and pm logs of the site would clearly show that this is not true. The links were shared via a private, non-site related, Skype conversation, nothing related to the site.

glados said:
The outcome of this whole incident is: PassThePopcorn (PtP) is currently insecure due to child porn activities of their founder. Try to defend the site all you want; it will get you nowhere.
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The outcome of incident is that SpektorMax and Azazel were banned from the site. SpektorMax was banned as we all wish to have no association with him from now on, and Azazel was banned for purposely trying to undermine the entire site just because he is on a white-knighting rampage; A rampage that is primarily fueled by his anger that he was recently demoted from staff and past disagreements with staff members. Instead of talking reasonably to the people involved he has gone out of his way to trash talk the site every place possible, had a friend post spam messages in pre-channels that make outrageous claims ( "Sick.Fuckers.At.PassThePopcorn.Are.Into.Child.Porn", "Staff.At.PassThePopcorn.org.Are.Watching.Child.Porn", "Pham.Sends.Pictures.Of.His.NewBorn.To.SpektorMax.For.Money" ) claims that obviously are attempting to include all of the staff, and has blocked people from contacting him on skype/facebook to civilly discuss the matter.
 
+1 to TehMeph's post... by far the most reasonable post in this whole thread.

nnnnnn said:
dude really? I mean really? He didn't upload the pictures nor does he own the 510chan place where it was hosted. He has done nothing wrong.
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To both of you PTP staff, I honestly hope you're only joking.

Child porn links were being distributed. That by itself is a felony, just like murder. If you have witnessed such felony and have not reported it, you are in fact an accomplice.

The PTP staff in that Skype convo (ExudosSqaured and z/jerrcs) have CLEARLY done absolutely nothing about it... you can notice in the screenshot that they continued sharing chan links, even about 5 minutes after child porn was posted.

The stance that PTP staff have decided to take by defending Spektormax and saying he's done nothing wrong is as disgusting as the act itself.

"he has done nothing wrong", despite the seriousness of the situation, all I can respond to that statement is "lol?"

You have just clearly proved what PTP staff are really made off. Please continue blindly defending that pedophile and your site, and attacking the OP for bringing attention to this issue (which is the correct thing to do). you sirs are only making yourself look just plain stupid.

Any PassThePopcorn member/staff with a little bit of common sense would leave PTP immediately. In fact, the right thing for PTP sysops/staff to do right now is to shut down PassThePopcorn indefinitely, instead of trying to defend spektormax and/or the site. Nobody wants to be a part of a movie-torrent site that is suspected to be a disguised front for child porn distribution.
 
so who released his private info? that was stupid thing to do. whoever it was should be banned asap imo.
 
ca_aok said:
For those of you saying the feds wouldn't notice his connections to PTP... there's nothing saying he wouldn't turn them in as retaliation or as an attempt to lighten his sentence. Tit for tat as it were.

I honestly have no idea what I'd do myself in that situation. It's all well and good for those of us up in our ivory towers to say we'd have called him in immediately, but we weren't there, we don't know him, and this doesn't involve us. He's a despicable person and should be called to task for it though, and the PTP staff are the only people who can do that.
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Well, if this directed at my comments, listen up.

1) I do not reside in an ivory tower but I do not have to to condemn a despicable pervert. Do you think if you are witness to one of the more vile actions of a human being that you must reside in an ivory tower to stand up and do something?
2) The guy who posted this is probably pissed about something else and lacks the moral courage to do shit about it.
3) Lighten his sentence? Are you joking? You are talking about a serious federal crime versus file sharing. "You are going to get 15-20 years but hey, rat out your buddies file sharing site and we'll knock off a decade or so. . ."

The last thing the community needs are disgusting freaks like this associated with it.
 
DWCreeper167 said:
It's not a tactic. I want to know if you guys have forwarded on his details. Banning someone means nothing. This may be a torrent forum and relates back to things happening with torrent connections but this is more of a serious matter than that.

Forward on his details, that is all I ask and that is what should have been done as soon as all this went down.
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Then why did you drag the entire site down with it. Instead of launching this attack you could have calmly discussed it with the sysops and other staff around at that time. This entire situation could have gone about much differently.
We are actively taking steps to notify people about the event that occured, but you need to seriously step down this campaign. It is only creating confusion, fear, and more unneeded attention to his despicable actions.
 
Havoc nailed it. For such an "inactive staffer" you sure were involved in RC2 material, A LOT. Why wasn't Azazel told of this when he contacted both Sys-Ops? Why weren't we told this story instead of the Sys-Ops saying "We told him to stop!"

You don't answer "You're right there's a lot of CP on *chans, here look at this" with "stop that's disgusting dude" especially if the latter person is who told you where to go look for it, in the first place.

Did it actually take you this long to come up with this pathetic lie? You should have really gone down the "My brother did it" road.
 
Seeing as how linux, Mac, And Windows have all been used to post and view cp I am boycotting their product. I for one refuse to condone such sick behavior. Linus Torvalds, Steve Jobs, And Bill Gates MUST be held responsible for this atrocity. In the mean time I'm working on writing a gui in visual basic so I won't have to use their pedo software.
 
Notice from the pics I posted I DID speak to both sysops. Pham isn't around otherwise I would have spoken to him. What use is there in speaking to a Director or other lower staff who has no control over the site?

Should I have got a staff meeting together to discuss this? No, fact remains 2 ptp sysops + max + another ptp staff were there and saw it and they may or may not have said via call to stop posting the links, that's irrelevant.

Immediate action should have been taken. The very least I should have expected is for them to cut communication off between themselves and spektormax but that didn't happen. AFAIK, the convo continued for a very long time after I left and the thought of banning him didn't even come to mind.

It was only after this forum thread and others like it that today, finally, he was banned but if proper action were taken, I'm shocked I haven't heard about it.

Because we are speaking of someone high up in the bit torrent scene, I'm amazed I haven't seen his details broadcasted to the heavens. Sorry if I don't take your word for it when you said "it's been taken care of".
 
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