PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn
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lol?
His whole life will get ruined if he's reported, and you say he has no reason to lie about anything?
you don't seem to understand the seriousness of the situation; losing access to the site or few "internet friends" is nothing compared to be convicted for child porn distribution, a felony with jail time charges.
Another poster has taken the words out of my mouth:
It really annoys me that the staff of PTP think that their sites reputation is more important than exposing a potential pedophile.
Their failure to angrily condemn child porn really makes me wonder how many other staff are also perverts and whether sharing CP is a common thing at PTP.
His whole life will get ruined if he's reported, and you say he has no reason to lie about anything?
you don't seem to understand the seriousness of the situation; losing access to the site or few "internet friends" is nothing compared to be convicted for child porn distribution, a felony with jail time charges.
irrelevant. Attacking the OP leads to nowhere and doesn't change the fact that PTP staff are still protecting a pedophile.
...which is why PTP staff should step up and release his information to the authorities... yet they're still protecting him for the sake of their little site.
Another poster has taken the words out of my mouth:
It really annoys me that the staff of PTP think that their sites reputation is more important than exposing a potential pedophile.
Their failure to angrily condemn child porn really makes me wonder how many other staff are also perverts and whether sharing CP is a common thing at PTP.
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As I stated before, A founder directly reflects upon his assets.
If Steve Jobs was found to be a pedophile, apple supporters would start to drop.
Same Situation (of course less assets) The founder of a tracker is a representative for the whole tracker. (his inactivity is irrelevant, if even true)
Releasing his info would be no different than what the Sex Offenders Registry does.
NNNNNN, you are saying he has done nothing wrong? He posted links to child porn. How is that not wrong? You are staff at PTP and defending him and this is the very reason this has gone so far now because you defend his actions. I mean really, WOW.
By the time the first pic of the Skype chat was posted, the links were reported and removed. I included the disclaimer just to be safe though. I did not and would not distribute anything like this. I’m a parent myself which I guess is why this issue has become such a big deal to me. The main point of including the links in the screenshot was for later reference so that 510chan can be contacted with said links and be able to speak on the validity of them and possibly the actions they took or are taking.
I’ve spoken to a police officer in Maryland and one from VA about this situation and they assured me that with that with his details, something can be done. Having a screenshot or even Skype logs apparently aren’t enough to ensure a conviction. Even if they don’t have enough evidence to prosecute, they have enough to tell his neighbours and others just incase. Obviously not to start violence or anything but to get the word out.
EXodussquared has PM’d me tonight on IRC I guess to resolve this. We spoke for awhile about this entire situation and I have included a paste bin of the entire convo. From this I see that he wants to try and do something now but IMO, it is too late. It has been days now since this has happened and nothing has been done. Maybe the feds can’t do anything but the very least PTP could do is release Spektormax’s details to other trackers and anonymously pass on his personal details to the authorities. Hell, Spektormax is still a member at What.CD and a Torrent Celebrity no less.
Following another thread on FileShareTalk found here http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-passthepopcorn-or-passthechildporn-403539 I hope you guys will see the attitude of PTP staff regarding this. 312c who is a PTP staff member has done nothing but preach on how legal the actions of Spektormax was. NNNNNN another PTP staff member has outright defended Spektormax and said “he has done nothing wrong” . Them along with other PTP staff members have tried to spread lies about me to take attention off of the main fact that Spektormax posted child porn and they have done nothing about it.
Convo between myself and Exodussquared tonight
http://pastebin.org/130868
Pic of NNNNNN a PTP staff member defending Spektormax
PTP staff continue to claim it is just Spektormax and that PTP is not involved in any way and they don’t defend his actions but obviously with their attitude and one of them actually saying “he has done nothing wrong”, it’s all a cover for them.
You folks can do what you wish but I wouldn’t be caught dead on a site of any kind where the staff think so lightly of child pornography. There are other trackers out there folks, don’t forget.
NNNNNN, you are saying he has done nothing wrong? He posted links to child porn. How is that not wrong? You are staff at PTP and defending him and this is the very reason this has gone so far now because you defend his actions. I mean really, WOW.
By the time the first pic of the Skype chat was posted, the links were reported and removed. I included the disclaimer just to be safe though. I did not and would not distribute anything like this. I’m a parent myself which I guess is why this issue has become such a big deal to me. The main point of including the links in the screenshot was for later reference so that 510chan can be contacted with said links and be able to speak on the validity of them and possibly the actions they took or are taking.
I’ve spoken to a police officer in Maryland and one from VA about this situation and they assured me that with that with his details, something can be done. Having a screenshot or even Skype logs apparently aren’t enough to ensure a conviction. Even if they don’t have enough evidence to prosecute, they have enough to tell his neighbours and others just incase. Obviously not to start violence or anything but to get the word out.
EXodussquared has PM’d me tonight on IRC I guess to resolve this. We spoke for awhile about this entire situation and I have included a paste bin of the entire convo. From this I see that he wants to try and do something now but IMO, it is too late. It has been days now since this has happened and nothing has been done. Maybe the feds can’t do anything but the very least PTP could do is release Spektormax’s details to other trackers and anonymously pass on his personal details to the authorities. Hell, Spektormax is still a member at What.CD and a Torrent Celebrity no less.
Following another thread on FileShareTalk found here http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-bittorrent-43/t-passthepopcorn-or-passthechildporn-403539 I hope you guys will see the attitude of PTP staff regarding this. 312c who is a PTP staff member has done nothing but preach on how legal the actions of Spektormax was. NNNNNN another PTP staff member has outright defended Spektormax and said “he has done nothing wrong” . Them along with other PTP staff members have tried to spread lies about me to take attention off of the main fact that Spektormax posted child porn and they have done nothing about it.
Convo between myself and Exodussquared tonight
http://pastebin.org/130868
Pic of NNNNNN a PTP staff member defending Spektormax
PTP staff continue to claim it is just Spektormax and that PTP is not involved in any way and they don’t defend his actions but obviously with their attitude and one of them actually saying “he has done nothing wrong”, it’s all a cover for them.
You folks can do what you wish but I wouldn’t be caught dead on a site of any kind where the staff think so lightly of child pornography. There are other trackers out there folks, don’t forget.
Bad news, there is no such thing as Internet privacy laws. Each country area has their own privacy laws. Which nearly all of them being extremely grey. As far as I have seen from my quick google searches Canada's privacy laws only cover data collected.
A lawsuit againist me on this matter, is well highly unlikely as to sue me, it would need to be in a Scottish court. To go with a defamation case, which would mean he would need to have the money he is suing for up front incase he loses, which he would. To go for a privacy lawsuit would most likely fail since the site isn't hosted in the UK.
You need to back down. You know fully well that you are doing this to ruin the site which had nothing to do with this.
Azazel, I'm sorry you were offended, we all are. His actions are his alone and we do not condone them.
He has NO access to the site. Period. We have cut all ties and are not defending his actions.
You wait on sites for an exploit and then you pounce. You have a power trip issue and it is evident in this thread. You yourself could have 'taken it to proper authorities' but instead you made the choice to blast this over the internet, to involve more people, and to draw more attention to the cp.
You need to realize the gravity of the situation and let it go. It has been dealt with.
Multiple staff members have come in here to describe and explain the situation yet still Azazel is oblivious to reason.
It needs to end. The issues you have are with spektormax and that is who you need to deal with. Stop involving innocent parties in your feuding.
Azazel, I'm sorry you were offended, we all are. His actions are his alone and we do not condone them.
He has NO access to the site. Period. We have cut all ties and are not defending his actions.
You wait on sites for an exploit and then you pounce. You have a power trip issue and it is evident in this thread. You yourself could have 'taken it to proper authorities' but instead you made the choice to blast this over the internet, to involve more people, and to draw more attention to the cp.
You need to realize the gravity of the situation and let it go. It has been dealt with.
Multiple staff members have come in here to describe and explain the situation yet still Azazel is oblivious to reason.
It needs to end. The issues you have are with spektormax and that is who you need to deal with. Stop involving innocent parties in your feuding.
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lol it's about time someone mentioned this since it's been entirely swept under the rug from the moment it happened. How safe is a site when a sysop allows users to remote to his PC with Teamviewer and see server login details just sitting there?
Plus the spotlight was on PTP long ago, remember the USA Today article?
This attention shouldn't impact PTP in any way, though it's stupidly obvious current staff should be looking at active backups & hosting to move the site, lowering DNS TTL's etc so they can be easily & quickly back up if anything does happen.
Ummm by initially posting the links to the porn on multiple sites, he did far more damage than Max did.
Simple question: Has anyone reported either of these people to the authorities yet?
LOL so here we are defending the privacy and legality of sharing this guys information, but no single thought to the child porn that was provided by the same person?
Fuck his privacy, pure & simple. He commited a felony act & you are defending him by not reporting him to the cops. Now that his information is public, I will do it for you.
I'll let the authorities decide what he does & doesn't like.
If you provide me Azazel's information I will happily report him in the same instance as Max. I've said time & time again Azazel's post including the links on multiple sites is worse than what Max did, but your comments here prove how much of a fucking cunt you are. You are continually defending him & feeling bad for him. Fuck you. Questionable images? Dude he fucking linked child porn, and again, and again. And nobody had the balls to report it. You're just as worthless as he is.
Plus the spotlight was on PTP long ago, remember the USA Today article?
This attention shouldn't impact PTP in any way, though it's stupidly obvious current staff should be looking at active backups & hosting to move the site, lowering DNS TTL's etc so they can be easily & quickly back up if anything does happen.
Ummm by initially posting the links to the porn on multiple sites, he did far more damage than Max did.
Simple question: Has anyone reported either of these people to the authorities yet?
LOL so here we are defending the privacy and legality of sharing this guys information, but no single thought to the child porn that was provided by the same person?
Fuck his privacy, pure & simple. He commited a felony act & you are defending him by not reporting him to the cops. Now that his information is public, I will do it for you.
I'll let the authorities decide what he does & doesn't like.
If you provide me Azazel's information I will happily report him in the same instance as Max. I've said time & time again Azazel's post including the links on multiple sites is worse than what Max did, but your comments here prove how much of a fucking cunt you are. You are continually defending him & feeling bad for him. Fuck you. Questionable images? Dude he fucking linked child porn, and again, and again. And nobody had the balls to report it. You're just as worthless as he is.
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Just, wow.
I've been a member at PTP for a while (just over 10 months to be exact) and in my time there I've talk on IRC regularly and read the forums. I've spent time talking to Azazel, DAQ, z/jerrcs and plenty of other staff there, and in my time spent with them I never ONCE received anything about child porn. Not even a mention of it. In my 10 months there, I've never even seen SpekTorMax speak on irc (that I can remember).
I don't know how I would go about handling if someone linked me to child porn, but I can tell you I would be repulsed by it because I've got children in my family and I certainly wouldn't do what Azazel did. A lot of people here are stating that SpekTorMax = PTP, when that just isn't the case. Obviously, as other staff have stated, he hasn't been a part of PTP for a while. That's kind of like stating the guy from the Dell commercials who got arrested for possession of a control substance (marijuana, I believe) was also selling marijuana for Dell along with their computers. It's just not a logical argument.
The fact is, he gave the links to 3 people (total). Azazel gave the links to [potentially] thousands of people. Both should be reprimanded for it, in my opinion. I do understand peoples need to protect society from these predators, but really a forum site? or a lame blog run by someone who wasn't even involved in it? You're bringing more attention to PTP/PTP staff and yourself than you are the real issue, which is child porn. Which does make me think you're on some type of crusade and trying to get your name as some type of BitTorrent martyr against child porn.
Azazel, you should be ashamed of yourself. Spreading around slander about PTP, making people think that all of PTP is a cover site for child porn. Immoral, at the very least. You should've talked to more than two people about it before going on a smear campaign against PTP and their staff. Your actions in this situation have really made me see your true colors. You'd rather alienate yourself from friends and ally yourself with law enforcement than attempt to find out what was actually going on. You jumped to conclusions, made assumptions, passed judgment, and became the prosecutor, judge, and jury. I get that you want to protect children, but you went about this the entirely wrong way. Furthermore, if you didn't have intentions of spreading around these links around, why would you screenshot and then proceed to save the links and post them everywhere you could? To me, it wouldn't make sense to screenshot something just to keep it on your computer. No matter what anyone at PTP done, I'm sure you had planned to "stir up shit" from the moment you clicked those links and found out what they really were. I hope you're happy being a martyr because that's all you're going to be doing in the private BitTorrent community. I wouldn't let someone like you within 100 miles of a site I had power over.
SpekTorMax, I've never talked to you. So, I'm not gonna sit here and lecture you about what you did, or the reasons behind what you did. I actually believe your story about confirming that the links were cp. Admittedly, you thought it was child porn, and you should have to answer for that to someone. I don't agree that it should be done by "dropping your dox" for the masses to threaten you. I think more damage has been done to PTP than to your reputation, personally. Which is a sad thing, because PTP is an amazing site. It has gifted coders and staff who actually care about the users. I'm actually glad you're not a part of the site, and haven't been for quite some time from what I can tell.
PassThePopcorn banned SpekTorMax, and Azazel, for their actions. The only thing anyone will get from this thread is more drama, and more finger pointing. Azazel made sure the damage done to PTP's reputation was significant, and there's no going back from that.
I've been a member at PTP for a while (just over 10 months to be exact) and in my time there I've talk on IRC regularly and read the forums. I've spent time talking to Azazel, DAQ, z/jerrcs and plenty of other staff there, and in my time spent with them I never ONCE received anything about child porn. Not even a mention of it. In my 10 months there, I've never even seen SpekTorMax speak on irc (that I can remember).
I don't know how I would go about handling if someone linked me to child porn, but I can tell you I would be repulsed by it because I've got children in my family and I certainly wouldn't do what Azazel did. A lot of people here are stating that SpekTorMax = PTP, when that just isn't the case. Obviously, as other staff have stated, he hasn't been a part of PTP for a while. That's kind of like stating the guy from the Dell commercials who got arrested for possession of a control substance (marijuana, I believe) was also selling marijuana for Dell along with their computers. It's just not a logical argument.
The fact is, he gave the links to 3 people (total). Azazel gave the links to [potentially] thousands of people. Both should be reprimanded for it, in my opinion. I do understand peoples need to protect society from these predators, but really a forum site? or a lame blog run by someone who wasn't even involved in it? You're bringing more attention to PTP/PTP staff and yourself than you are the real issue, which is child porn. Which does make me think you're on some type of crusade and trying to get your name as some type of BitTorrent martyr against child porn.
Azazel, you should be ashamed of yourself. Spreading around slander about PTP, making people think that all of PTP is a cover site for child porn. Immoral, at the very least. You should've talked to more than two people about it before going on a smear campaign against PTP and their staff. Your actions in this situation have really made me see your true colors. You'd rather alienate yourself from friends and ally yourself with law enforcement than attempt to find out what was actually going on. You jumped to conclusions, made assumptions, passed judgment, and became the prosecutor, judge, and jury. I get that you want to protect children, but you went about this the entirely wrong way. Furthermore, if you didn't have intentions of spreading around these links around, why would you screenshot and then proceed to save the links and post them everywhere you could? To me, it wouldn't make sense to screenshot something just to keep it on your computer. No matter what anyone at PTP done, I'm sure you had planned to "stir up shit" from the moment you clicked those links and found out what they really were. I hope you're happy being a martyr because that's all you're going to be doing in the private BitTorrent community. I wouldn't let someone like you within 100 miles of a site I had power over.
SpekTorMax, I've never talked to you. So, I'm not gonna sit here and lecture you about what you did, or the reasons behind what you did. I actually believe your story about confirming that the links were cp. Admittedly, you thought it was child porn, and you should have to answer for that to someone. I don't agree that it should be done by "dropping your dox" for the masses to threaten you. I think more damage has been done to PTP than to your reputation, personally. Which is a sad thing, because PTP is an amazing site. It has gifted coders and staff who actually care about the users. I'm actually glad you're not a part of the site, and haven't been for quite some time from what I can tell.
PassThePopcorn banned SpekTorMax, and Azazel, for their actions. The only thing anyone will get from this thread is more drama, and more finger pointing. Azazel made sure the damage done to PTP's reputation was significant, and there's no going back from that.
http://www.antichildporn.org/faq-on-cp.htm
Get your facts rigth, nobody was required to do anything by law and within the scope of the skype conversation nothing illegal was done. The only person who broke any laws was the person who uploaded the images to 510chan. As has already been stated, even if anyone had reported SpektorMax there was not enough probable cause from any LEO to do anything.
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He does have certain traits of a pedophile, don't you all agree? :shutup:
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uncle steve
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I think she might have been making a joke. I looked and couldn't find anything, either.
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Stephen:
To answer you in a word: No. No I do not. If you see someone being assaulted and robbed while you are jaywalking, I guess you would do nothing.
Look, I find degenerates who engage in that filth to be the serpent's bellies of this oblate spheroid we exist on. I find anyone who doesn't act- regardless of personal risk- to stop them, reprehensible.
Yes, demonstrable. You clearly demonstrated it via your employment of the terms "lifes" and "themselfs".
He helped young innocent children, but endangered bittorrent.
He is no hero, this could have been handled much more professionally if he really wanted this to go to the "authorities".
He brought the Bittorrent community into this issue, and now this whole scenario wreaks of bittorrent users.
If you want to get authorities involved... Don't involve bittorrent.