PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn

[DaringDave]

Whether he did it as a "21 y/o shock humor" or "to get a reaction" or "to prove to the other ptp staff that chan sites has cp", he still redistributed cp.

yes but it doesn't make him a pedophile.
i love how people get on their high horse and take sides whitout being aware of all the circumstances/aspects of the story.

you would all make terrible judges.

 

[robm425]

We're beating a dead horse by fighting, and I've said what I needed to say. I do hope that legal actions are taken against those who posted the images though.

Your founder redistributed the pictures via the chat... Should he not be penalized for this also?

 

[baseballfan35]

I posted no such thing.....no idea what you are talking about

 

[alice H]

wow what a shit comment, just because it dont affect me i shouldnt care.:noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes::noes:
Maybe u should tell that to the kids.

Really I don't give a shit about the tracker, because it kinda just sucks balls.

But, all of you staffers over there keep saying that this has nothing to do with PTP. Well, guess what? When the founder of the site does shit like this with current staff present and it comes out it has everything to do with PTP. Also, this not about one member, anyones refusal to do ANYTHING about this is just as bad as posting it yourself. Your inaction is just as bad as the action itself. You're all pretty much scum.

At least the OP was doing something about it and informed a small community about the antics that you seem to enjoy in your Skype conversations over there. Props to him.

Have fun trying to deny that this has nothing to do with you. Keep telling yourself that.

P.S. Banning someone isn't acting on shit.

exactly, its a chat with all ptp staff members in it and you say its nothing to do with ptp, it makes no sence.

 

[harlequinromance345]

are any of the ptp staff collaborating spektors explanation?

nope. They've only confirmed the child porn. And on several occasions have defended Spektormax and his actions. a couple of them even said he's done absolutely nothing wrong (like 312c, nnnnnn, jerrcs/jeremy/z/zzz)

As another poster on another blog said: "PTP == Protect The Pedophiles"
^ quoted from a poster on Backie's blog http://onasoapbox.co.uk/

 

[Helper]

Moral integrity among pirates, who might as well turn around and do the same when nobody's looking? Don't be naive.

 

[Ellie]

I say, so be it, torrenting can be restarted but this cant be undone. We are talking of real children, for God's sake. In my country we have an ongoing case of some foreigner guy for paedo.
And I assure u he is gonna pay for his misdeeds.

And may this be a warning to all even thinking about this shit :angry:

Since I'm not going to argue the fact that it's really serious to share that shit - it came from a fucking chan site and no one really understands this I think. I'm sorry, but the "20 year old humor" is pretty much sharing shit like this and seeing what the response is. Chan's exist these days for that shock effect.

Again, I'm not arguing sharing it is really fucked up and all of that - the person that had it saved on his computer and uploaded it to the Chan should really have a lesson taught - I really highly doubt skeptor or however the fuck you spell his name saved it on his hard drive. Browsing through Chan's you see shit like this all the time, it's normal on websites like these. Is it bad, fucked up, insane and really morally wrong? Yes, this shit isn't a fucking joke. If you frequently browse a chan site and see this shit all the time your probably going to get used to seeing it. My guess is that skeptor thought that everyone in the chat sees this shit all the time from browsing the chan's and linked it in the Skype chat. If he didn't think this, hes not dumb enough to show himself as a pedophile to the internet. He's obviously not that fucking stupid, considering he helped start one of the biggest movie trackers online.

If he didn't know how to secure himself then he wouldn't of done that. Obviously he made a huge misjudgement in this case and posted that shit in the chat in front of Azazel who likes to throw shit way out of proportion and it seems a lot of people who don't really understand the fucking internet are as well. This shit happens guys, I'm sorry - I've never done it myself, but I see it all the time on chan websites. I'd never actually linked to a CP image and I briefly explained earlier as to he might have done this. It's not an excuse really, it's a valid explanation as to why he did this. It's fucking retarded, yeah, but that's just how shit is on the internet. Sorry, it's going to get worse, if you can't handle situations like this then you should leave. Soon you'll hear a lot of stories like this on the news, it's not leaving, and it's not just BT. We're in the digital age where this shit gets passed around like a blunt on 4/20.

Do not think I am actually defending skeptor - that is definitely not my intent here. I just wanted to try and explain one of the many (and also very and much more likely) reasons to why this shit happened. He didn't link to a fucking download of RAR'd photos for fuck sakes, it's a CHAN WEBSITE. Visit one, like right now, then come back and tell us what you see.

What is your first reaction? If you are in disbelief, maybe you will be like "WTF is this dude??" and post a link in your IM conversation and ask. His story really doesn't seem to be bullshit, it seems like he's telling the truth by explaining details like those seriously. It's also possible that he's a pedophile and is covering it up completely, but thinking of the likelihood of this... come on pedos vs. stupid 20 year olds that want a shock value out of their friends... seriously guys, grow up and realize that this situation is not as big of a deal as you think it is.

This is what pisses me off about this thread, your really not thinking of the possibilities, your just throwing the "OMG HE SHARED CP" logo on skeptor. Your doing that while also sharing his personal information. You guys are the criminals here, I'm sorry.

Think before you post. I did. I do. I don't go near CP - neither should you. Stay away from unpopular chan sites and whatever you do, do not fucking link them in an IM conversation. This is what happens when you do that.

This took a long time to write and I don't feel like arguing with someone who doesn't have an open mind. Although it's serious to share CP (like, actually share it, not just link a few images in an IM chat), you should really think of the possibilities.

Also, Lady Gaga is awesome.

 

[sirindair]

Because PTP staff are responsible and involve the site when they turn a blind eye and do nothing about it.PTP sysops have already admitted that the links were child porn and even though he posted it and they were supposidly disgusted by it, they kept chatting with him and even got him to join another tracker IRC I was on to "calm" the situation.

Being a woman I would think you would understand more than anyone. If someone posted child porn links in your presence, how would you act regardless of who they are? Would you continue talking to them and working with them? Would you not ban them from your site if you could?

I think you are a bit confused about PTP staff atm. z and exo were not mods/admins. They were sysops with complete control over the site and server including box access and everything else. With a few key strokes they could make PTP dissapear forever so don't think for a second they didn't have the power to get rid of him then and there.

On gazelle, anyone with the permissions tool can basically do anything on the site which both sysops had. Hell, they could have completely deleted the entire Founder userclass if they chose to do so but didn't.

That is why I made this public because not doing so would not have gotten anything done at all. A sites actions and inactions regarding such matters effect EVERYONE on that site.

Ask any self respecting owner of a tracker what they would do in a similar situation and I guarantee you that would take immediate action, not ignore it.

We need spektormax to come back and make him get rid of any evidence of PTP he has.
God only knows what information he has stored at his current location about PTP.

This is beyond child porn now.... You have potentially endangered thousands of bittorrent users.

 

[Wes B]

I said to stop using your ass to think... again, you're not making one single valid point. You have NO proof of those, what-so-ever. Just pure conjuncture from someone who posted links to child porn for thousands of people to see to further his own agenda. You seriously have no clue what went on during that call, and what was said after those links were posted.

Your right, what am I thinking.

Anyone else want to join a skype with me and "check" to see if links contain child pornography.
Only a clear thinking man would search for child porn, and then have others on skype check to confirm that it is child porn.


Come on....Do you even realize what your trying to defend?

 

[AlmaaPattinson]

This is my last post in this thread. I am allowing myself to get too upset. (I remember years ago I had a 'powerlifting' forum- the older threaded type forum- and we got overwrought in these internet debates. I lost sleep; I was angry, lol. But we knew real names and eventually met in person at meets and worked things out. Nevertheless, it's not worth it for me, now.)

You are obviously well educated, concerned, and passionate. I truly appreciate your efforts here! I can imagine we would be allies in many threads. I also know where your heart is. I have twins (one of each) who are now 4 weeks old. I am very protective of them and have no desire to see "individuals" dry such as pedoMax wander freely.

I am participating in this thread because I believe it needs some balance to the knee-jerk, "let's string 'em up" mentality every time CP is mentioned.

Most of the people posting in this thread are making statements that equal, "I am for the environment", "I want clean air/water", "I am an anti-trader", "Guns are evil", etc. Some stances are EXTREMELY EASY. I simply want to throw some rationale in the mix.

If pedoMax had a wife, or gf, who had seen something on his computer and was willing to testify, there would be enough to get a warrant. The police could access his computer because she would grant them access. Yes, that does happen- and it should.

The difference in this case is that we have witnesses who saw a couple of links posted. That's it. Even with his name, social security number, and a photo of him, the police will not have any access to his house. There is not enough probable cause for a judge to grant a search warrant and the police are busy taking calls for much bigger crimes. To flood them every time someone posts a couple of inappropriate pics is silly and counter-productive.

I know this is serious. I was the first in this thread to call for pedoMax's ban. Unfortunately, unless we see fit to have all internet posts monitored and traced, this "case" will fall stillborn.

 

[♥ J a i m i e ♥]

Hooray, lets all play the "I did no such thing" game \o/ I bet 10 dollars that Spektormax didn't even post any of that and Azazel simply photoshopped the pictures. The plot thickens and you just lost some more of your precious credibility.

 

[smmay2]

I'm sure this is only going to serve to get me banned permanently since I'm already on shaky ground but what the hell, why not join the party and voice my opinion as well right? If you can't speak then what's the point of living, censorship sucks.

- It's obvious, and understandable why staff are in damage control. Anyone would be with this thread. Nobody can justify it but nobody is. By definition however you are condoning it by not reporting him to the police and any claims that you can't are false.

- The fact max's account was disabled doesn't really account for much, considering how easy it is to make a new one and that staff mentioned renaming his account, clearly visible in the staff forum - (Screenshot to come)

- There has to be atleast 1 staff member who knows Max in person and can call the police to investigate. It's not your place or anyone here to decide if it was legal or not, it's a job for the police and 100% without a doubt the report should be made. PTP isn't directly involved but staff know Max and have the responsibility as people to report this activity. It's deadset as simple as that. You guys have his number I'm sure, and can contact DAQ or pham if needed to get more information about him for the police. It's incredibly easy for you to report him and there's no excuse you can make to justify not doing it.

- Azazel should not have included links in the original post to the child porn content. This makes you worse than Max to be honest, he posted links to 3 people in a private conversation, you've spread the porn to potentially hundreds of thousands of people across many sites. I feel you should also be reported to the police without a doubt.

It's not the place to raise previous issues about PTP so I won't, though I'm quite tempted. I guess I'm just glad this one isn't swept under the rug but now it's out & those who know where to find him should report him to the cops.

 

[Forever under 5 ft]

Azazel helping young innocent children from pedophiles,In my book he is a Hero.

objective completed.

well done Azazel :yup:

 

[chilling]

Sup, I heard there was some CP

None here, sir.

 

[burberryicon]

Are you talking out of your ass or do you actually believe in what you are saying caaok? More lies as usual

The original claim was that Pedomax posted links to child porn and PTP staff did NOTHING about it and didn't care. I never said PTP was a front for child porn.

I demoted and banned my own Azazel account on PTP. Like I've said before, I DARE any PTP staffer to claim otherwise.

And for the 100000000000th time, we aren't talking about "questionable" jailbait pics. We're talking hardcore porn involving children under the age of 10.

It's really pissing me off tbh that so many people keep coming up with lies and half truths and acting like what Pedomax did was no big deal.

It's really pathetic that PTP staff and their friends are coming up with lies about me and trying to damage my name trying to keep talk off of the original topic.

 

[navedaa13]

DWcreeper you may have just got yourself caught up in a serious situation....

As well you have endangered countless legitimate members at PTP.

 

[Travel N Livin]

This was stated nowhere that I've seen. "Child porn" in regards to Chan links is usually pics of 15-16 year old girls doing questionable things.

It's really pathetic that PTP staff and their friends are coming up with lies about me and trying to damage my name trying to keep talk off of the original topic.

It's funny because I don't even have an account there

Do I believe what I'm saying? Yep. As for what he did being no big deal, I really don't see how what you're doing is any better. Just because one person in this situation is a jackass, doesn't mean the other is a saint.

Now my spell checker came up with 0 errors, so I am gonna assume that you're not that smart and think that US English is the only way to spell.

I'd think it doesn't take a genius to realize that just because a word is spelled correctly, it doesn't mean that the word is used correctly in context.

I could write a sentence saying "The post isn’t going get remove" (Hint, use CTRL+F) where all the words are proper English words, though in context they're spelled incorrectly.

The IRC conversation has the worst of it though. Libel versus "liable", etc. So no, US English isn't the only proper way to spell (I use Canadian aka British English anyway), but I think I've come to the conclusion that you weren't smart ages ago. Enjoy using spellcheck.

 

[steph.]

The humour in this eludes me.

It really annoys me that the staff of PTP think that their sites reputation is more important than exposing a potential pedophile.

Their failure to angrily condemn child porn really makes me wonder how many other staff are also perverts and whether sharing CP is a common thing at PTP.

IF THIS GUY IS A PEDO, HE ISNT YOUR FRIEND UNLESS YOU ARE A PEDO TOO!!

 

[Matthew T]

@heyjoe1: you only joined today just to make that post. Reading your post and how you attacked the OP, you look like another PTP staff under a random nick. are you kate128? 312c? nnnnnn?

Grow up, PTP staff, and open your eyes to the current situation. you don't seem to realize how serious this is. you're either only children or just plain stupid.

From what I understand from the pastebin convo between ExodusSquared and Azazel ( http://pastebin.org/130868 ), ExodusSquared is finally trying to do the right thing by reporting Spektormax and giving out his details to authorities. But before you do so, I believe for the safety of PTP members, the site should be closed indefinitely.

After reporting Spektormax, the investigation will lead to the following:
* where were child porn link distributed? in a Skype convo, with 4 other people.
* how are these people related to the offender? they are all staff at PassThePopcorn.org
* Is it a possibility that PassThePopcorn.org is a front for underground child porn distribution? ...Most definitely.

PTP will be held under investigation... from the authorities' point of view, if child porn was distributed in a convo between 4 staff of PTP, similiar activites are most definitely occuring in say a private forum for staff on PassThePopcorn (ie: the staff forum).

We've all seen child porn pics being shared in the convo between PTP staff... We've all seen that absolutly nothing was done about it. We've all seen that Jeremy/jerrcs/z proceeded in posting links 5 minutes after child porn was posted as if nothing happened. We've all seen PTP staff defending Spektormax's actions and saying he's done nothing wrong.....
I'm sorry but because of all of this, I'm inclined to believe that child porn links are being distributed in PassThePopcorn's private staff forum. At least that's the conclusion the feds are going to come to.

eXodusSquared, if you really want to do the right thing, for the sake of safety of PTP members, shut down PassThePopcorn and delete all of its database immediately.

 

[Mr.RetroStar]

To clarify things even more which is pathetic that I even have to do this.

The chat logs between myself and z and with exodussquared showed that I tried to get something done on PTP. Neither would do anything and neither cared. It was fully in z's and exodussquared's power to ban him from the site then and there but that didn't happen, they continued talking to him.

I wasn't demoted/kicked off or even banned from PTP by any of the staff. I was fed up with the power abuse that was going on there and I demoted and banned my Azazel account. I still used my KingArthur account for downloading. As can be clearly seen from the chat logs, I told both z and exodussquared that I wanted all of my accounts deleted from PTP. So who is running the smear campaign now?

The skype convo was PTP related. The whole reason we were in there was to work on RC2 since z asked for my help and max was there for coding.

I find it so disgusting that one of the owners of PTP posted child porn, the sysops did NOTHING even after being PM'd by me about this and now instead of just getting rid of him and being done with you, you try to lie about me and tarnish my name. Guess what? I don't care about my rep or anything else but I won't have you(PTP) try to act like I went about this the wrong way as some sort of vendetta.

Up untill this point, I had nothing against PTP or any of the staff obviously which is why I was in PTP irc and helping to work on the new dev site, ptp.v2.

Supposidly spektormax is banned now but that doesn't count for his dupe accounts and his server access. IMO, showing he's banned is just an act to try and alleviate some of the tension with word getting around. Why when this happened last night did it take untill now to ban him??

Staff here have removed the skype chat pic I showed because it contained the links to the pics and z and exodussquareds' possible real names but I see no reason why the chat logs between myself and these 2 shouldn't be allowed.