PassThePopcorn or PassTheChildPorn
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natashankhan
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You always had a better way with adjectives than I do.
sammeesmee
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This is not related to PTP as a sight by any means, it was a despicable action by a rogue member.
Continuing this in the immature, playground manner that Azazel is doing is beyond some righteous vigilantism that he is so fond of. It's pathetic. And you need to stop.
Spektormax has been both disabled and demoted and he will not partake in any aspect of PTP now or ever. We are NOT condoning his activity, not participating, not involved with it.
Azazel is blind with his vendetta against the site and is manipulating the story anyway he can. He wasn't in the voice chat, he did not hear them reprimanding spek. To take it to this level and insinuate it has happened before is downright obnoxious and nothing more than a smear campaign from someone who has too much time on their hands and puts too much stock into himself.
This is NOT related to PTP by any means. The user has been dealt with and all association has been broken.
Continuing this in the immature, playground manner that Azazel is doing is beyond some righteous vigilantism that he is so fond of. It's pathetic. And you need to stop.
Spektormax has been both disabled and demoted and he will not partake in any aspect of PTP now or ever. We are NOT condoning his activity, not participating, not involved with it.
Azazel is blind with his vendetta against the site and is manipulating the story anyway he can. He wasn't in the voice chat, he did not hear them reprimanding spek. To take it to this level and insinuate it has happened before is downright obnoxious and nothing more than a smear campaign from someone who has too much time on their hands and puts too much stock into himself.
This is NOT related to PTP by any means. The user has been dealt with and all association has been broken.
It was obviously Azazel on his silly self-righteous quest for vengeance in which he himself distributed child porn (to a much larger audience might I add).
You sir are a moron, and deserve whatever you get just as much as spectormax does. The proper thing to do would have been to submit that information to the authorities rather than DOXing him, which is what silly little teenagers on power trips tend to do.
You sir are a moron, and deserve whatever you get just as much as spectormax does. The proper thing to do would have been to submit that information to the authorities rather than DOXing him, which is what silly little teenagers on power trips tend to do.
AuroraGlow
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Because PTP staff are responsible and involve the site when they turn a blind eye and do nothing about it.PTP sysops have already admitted that the links were child porn and even though he posted it and they were supposidly disgusted by it, they kept chatting with him and even got him to join another tracker IRC I was on to "calm" the situation.
Being a woman I would think you would understand more than anyone. If someone posted child porn links in your presence, how would you act regardless of who they are? Would you continue talking to them and working with them? Would you not ban them from your site if you could?
I think you are a bit confused about PTP staff atm. z and exo were not mods/admins. They were sysops with complete control over the site and server including box access and everything else. With a few key strokes they could make PTP dissapear forever so don't think for a second they didn't have the power to get rid of him then and there.
On gazelle, anyone with the permissions tool can basically do anything on the site which both sysops had. Hell, they could have completely deleted the entire Founder userclass if they chose to do so but didn't.
That is why I made this public because not doing so would not have gotten anything done at all. A sites actions and inactions regarding such matters effect EVERYONE on that site.
Ask any self respecting owner of a tracker what they would do in a similar situation and I guarantee you that would take immediate action, not ignore it.
Being a woman I would think you would understand more than anyone. If someone posted child porn links in your presence, how would you act regardless of who they are? Would you continue talking to them and working with them? Would you not ban them from your site if you could?
I think you are a bit confused about PTP staff atm. z and exo were not mods/admins. They were sysops with complete control over the site and server including box access and everything else. With a few key strokes they could make PTP dissapear forever so don't think for a second they didn't have the power to get rid of him then and there.
On gazelle, anyone with the permissions tool can basically do anything on the site which both sysops had. Hell, they could have completely deleted the entire Founder userclass if they chose to do so but didn't.
That is why I made this public because not doing so would not have gotten anything done at all. A sites actions and inactions regarding such matters effect EVERYONE on that site.
Ask any self respecting owner of a tracker what they would do in a similar situation and I guarantee you that would take immediate action, not ignore it.
Azazel needs to stop being an attention whore and trying to make members of PassThePopcorn scared from using the site only because a "founder" who is now disabled and banned from the site posted links from a *chan site into a skype chat.
To Azazel: Would you stop trying to put PassThePopcorn & me and z down?? Spektormax is dealt with and we aren't done yet. You don't know what actions we are taking BECAUSE YOU WONT TALK TO US!! You said a few lines to me a ceased to talk to me on IRC, deleted your facebook and quit Skype. Stop trying to bash us the staff at PTP. This is an isolated incident of Spektormax and we got effed over for being in that chat. Not to mention I lost a great friend (you) because an asshole posted links in a skype chat I happened to be in. We didn't ask for anything all of a sudden he posted the links and as everyone has made it clear by now we told him to stop.
If anyone is to blame is Azazel for being such a pu**y and crying to every forum possible that PTP condones child porn when we do NOT, instead of talking to the people in the chat. Literally he told me "do not PM me anymore".
To all of you who want PTP taken down or accounts deleted stop being attention whores. PassThePopcorn has NOTHING to do with this. Spektormax is sick in the head. Go report him, we don't care he has nothing to do with us anymore.
-eXodusSquared
To Azazel: Would you stop trying to put PassThePopcorn & me and z down?? Spektormax is dealt with and we aren't done yet. You don't know what actions we are taking BECAUSE YOU WONT TALK TO US!! You said a few lines to me a ceased to talk to me on IRC, deleted your facebook and quit Skype. Stop trying to bash us the staff at PTP. This is an isolated incident of Spektormax and we got effed over for being in that chat. Not to mention I lost a great friend (you) because an asshole posted links in a skype chat I happened to be in. We didn't ask for anything all of a sudden he posted the links and as everyone has made it clear by now we told him to stop.
If anyone is to blame is Azazel for being such a pu**y and crying to every forum possible that PTP condones child porn when we do NOT, instead of talking to the people in the chat. Literally he told me "do not PM me anymore".
To all of you who want PTP taken down or accounts deleted stop being attention whores. PassThePopcorn has NOTHING to do with this. Spektormax is sick in the head. Go report him, we don't care he has nothing to do with us anymore.
-eXodusSquared
ninjamasta2k
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Well I don't know, but if you look at his face... It has that clear "pedo smile". Like, right after hes done fapping to the pictures and he puts on the satisfactory smile saying "Hell yeah, another one bites the dust."
I said to stop using your ass to think... again, you're not making one single valid point. You have NO proof of those, what-so-ever. Just pure conjuncture from someone who posted links to child porn for thousands of people to see to further his own agenda. You seriously have no clue what went on during that call, and what was said after those links were posted.
drumrollplzz
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Agreed. looks to me they didn't care at all to do anything about Spektormax's actions until the issue was being brought to the public's attention via this thread and others.
Child porn links were posted in a convo involving at least 4 PTP staff... how is that not PTP-related? also keep in mind that actions against that individual (which only involved disabling his account) were only taken after this issue was made public.
Anyway, a site whose founder/ex-founder is into child porn (and shares child porn to other current staff of that site) is not a site I, and I'm sure many others, would want to be a part of.
More info is detailed here http://onasoapbox.co.uk/2010/03/31/pass-the-popcorn-pass-the-buck/
angeliz378
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Azazel helping young innocent children from pedophiles,In my book he is a Hero.
No you young kid should have their spirit take away from scumbags pedophiles,put in the same circumstance I would have put the prick in to police for sure.
No you young kid should have their spirit take away from scumbags pedophiles,put in the same circumstance I would have put the prick in to police for sure.
Ms. Sutton
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Wow, there's a lot of legal experts in this thread ROFL. DWCreeper167, your username seems pretty appropriate now. The creepy way you've continued to handled this situation makes you a creep. I understand though, your still pissed off they demoted you from staff before this happened and you were just dieing for an excuse to act out your grudge.
While the rest of you white knight and sit on your high horses passing judgment, I'm going to continue using and enjoying the best movie tracker online. To some of you asking for PTP to delete your accounts - I'm sure they won't miss you that much. Aristocles I've seen your stats there. 100gb uploaded doesn't exactly make you an irreplaceable user.
Deal with spektormax and leave the rest of this drama out of bittorrent. The most this is going to do is lead to lots of traffic for Backie's blog. I'm sure he loves this shit.
While the rest of you white knight and sit on your high horses passing judgment, I'm going to continue using and enjoying the best movie tracker online. To some of you asking for PTP to delete your accounts - I'm sure they won't miss you that much. Aristocles I've seen your stats there. 100gb uploaded doesn't exactly make you an irreplaceable user.
Deal with spektormax and leave the rest of this drama out of bittorrent. The most this is going to do is lead to lots of traffic for Backie's blog. I'm sure he loves this shit.
SSBB RULES
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This is a load of BULL SHIT.
You posted those links to confirm their was child porn on a website....
Come on you sorry ass son of a bitch.
tax cuts hurt the economy
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I called that one!
illinoismommy
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no, it's me.
So they found it amusing that he posted child pornography.
Azazel had ZERO intentions of spreading child pornography, but rather he came here to expose what Spektormax had did. (the Pictures where 404ed, so he didn't distribute anything illegal)
SpekTorMAX distributed pictures with the intention of spreading child porno. (also the links were active, so they did link to child pornography).
So since you love the to reference laws, I'll tell you that a guy who gives a link to a 404ed page (with the intention of correcting a issue), and a guy who gives a link to child porn are treated differently.
Azazel had ZERO intentions of spreading child pornography, but rather he came here to expose what Spektormax had did. (the Pictures where 404ed, so he didn't distribute anything illegal)
SpekTorMAX distributed pictures with the intention of spreading child porno. (also the links were active, so they did link to child pornography).
So since you love the to reference laws, I'll tell you that a guy who gives a link to a 404ed page (with the intention of correcting a issue), and a guy who gives a link to child porn are treated differently.
I suppose he does in a way, although I'm not sure that's entirely fair. That reflection is one of implied association, not of actual structural attachment. The links to PTP are simply that he was a founder, and that he was involved in a conversation with a couple of other PTP staff when this occurred. That is it. However I've read suggestions in this thread that PTP is a front for CP distribution, that its current staff are involved etc etc etc. That in my mind is taking it far too far, not because I give a damn about that site, but because its just silly and as I said, distracts from the actual issue at stake.
To use your analogy, if Steve Jobs was accused of distributing illegal material, Apple's stock would drop undoubtedly. Briefly at least. However, would that mean that Apple's other senior executives were also distributing the same stuff, and that their whole company was actually a front for producing CP? Would it hell. Would that mean that some of his friends on the board, who'd known him years, might struggle to believe the allegations, or mightn't try to find some justification or excuse for them above and beyond how joe-public might? I bet it would.
And what if he was investigated and was found to have been innocent, unaware, unintentionally or accidentally involved? Because the initial accusations weren't aware if the entire context, circumstances or events? Would the smear on his name, and his company's, be entirely removed in the public's mind?
As I said, I'm not trying to defend PTP per-see, I just think it would do some people some favours not to be so entirely judgemental and not to draw such wide conclusions from what appears to be a very isolated incident ultimately involving just one person.
you guys keep bringing up Azazel; fact of the matter is, no one cares about Azazel and why he's doing it. people are concerned about what he brought to the table, not why he's done so, which again is irrelevant.
Spektormax has willingly shared links to images of child porn; this act by itself is strictly illegal in the US, and is actually a criminal offense (rather than downloading copyrighted material, which would be a civil offense); so the cops/FBI may very well be involved in this cyber crime. Distributing links to child porn via instant messaging services such as Skype is indeed a cyber crime in the USA.
If Azazel or anyone would like to take a step further against Spektormax's actions, you may contact Skype with the presented evidence, also report the cyber crime to the appropriate authorities http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm
Since Spektormax was stupid enough to post those links in a Skype convo, everything is logged over at Skype and the investigation will most definitely lead to his arrest. All of his internet activity will of course be investigated, which will involve PassThePopcorn, which he is/was the founder of.
This is why I'm saying that PassThePopcorn is obviously EXTREMELY insecure at the moment. If an official investigation is held, PTP will be investigated, members/emails/IPs will be taken by the authorities for evidence as the site might be linked to those child porn activities (considering that the links were posted in a conversation with PTP sysops/staff).
This is where you're wrong.
Spektormax has willingly shared links to images of child porn; this act by itself is strictly illegal in the US, and is actually a criminal offense (rather than downloading copyrighted material, which would be a civil offense); so the cops/FBI may very well be involved in this cyber crime. Distributing links to child porn via instant messaging services such as Skype is indeed a cyber crime in the USA.
If Azazel or anyone would like to take a step further against Spektormax's actions, you may contact Skype with the presented evidence, also report the cyber crime to the appropriate authorities http://www.justice.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm
Since Spektormax was stupid enough to post those links in a Skype convo, everything is logged over at Skype and the investigation will most definitely lead to his arrest. All of his internet activity will of course be investigated, which will involve PassThePopcorn, which he is/was the founder of.
This is why I'm saying that PassThePopcorn is obviously EXTREMELY insecure at the moment. If an official investigation is held, PTP will be investigated, members/emails/IPs will be taken by the authorities for evidence as the site might be linked to those child porn activities (considering that the links were posted in a conversation with PTP sysops/staff).
The only thing I can say is that I am disgusted. I could not believe my eyes when I found out that what you're saying is true. I do believe what you say because you (obviously) provided us with screenshots.
I didn't type in the URLs or anything, but if spektormax is looking at those types of things, then I must say that it's something really sad of him to do. I never thought that the SysOp of a very large and well-known site would do something as repugnant as that.
I didn't type in the URLs or anything, but if spektormax is looking at those types of things, then I must say that it's something really sad of him to do. I never thought that the SysOp of a very large and well-known site would do something as repugnant as that.