Palm OS on a Windows PPC - Must Read Article
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Moose Man,
Great find - excellent article. Think the author "hits the nail" on the head!
Been a while since I've stopped by
-KimH
Great find - excellent article. Think the author "hits the nail" on the head!
Been a while since I've stopped by
-KimH
I apologize profusely if this sounds arrogant but . . .
Told you I wouldn't go to OS6!
Told you I'd get a PPC before "jumping" to another veiled debacle. Made that decision a year ago when jumping from M505 to T3. So glad I got the T3 . . . and will probably still go ahead with a spare T3 or Zodiac2 in the meantime as "backup."
Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us. We've been "alerted" semi-officially, now.
KimH was ahead of the curve with his PPC switch, but we're all catching up quick! Thanks Mooseman. Perhaps the best find ever presented on this forum.
I'll say it again: Confucious put it best: "It's all B*******."
As Mac OS10 is basically UNIX (Linux), perhaps NOW they'll jump in the fray and make a Mac/PDA. Fifth shoe.
Told you I wouldn't go to OS6!
Told you I'd get a PPC before "jumping" to another veiled debacle. Made that decision a year ago when jumping from M505 to T3. So glad I got the T3 . . . and will probably still go ahead with a spare T3 or Zodiac2 in the meantime as "backup."
Fool us once, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us. We've been "alerted" semi-officially, now.
KimH was ahead of the curve with his PPC switch, but we're all catching up quick! Thanks Mooseman. Perhaps the best find ever presented on this forum.
I'll say it again: Confucious put it best: "It's all B*******."
As Mac OS10 is basically UNIX (Linux), perhaps NOW they'll jump in the fray and make a Mac/PDA. Fifth shoe.
CUTENESS2199
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It looks like Sharp is a step ahead of palmOne and Palm Source. Zaurus already runs Linux. It will be interesting to see if the future Palm for Linux devices will be compatible with Zaurus programs.
I don't remember where I saw it, but I read somewhere that Zaurus can sync with Palm Desktop. Can anyone verify this?
I don't remember where I saw it, but I read somewhere that Zaurus can sync with Palm Desktop. Can anyone verify this?
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Today I've sold my T3!
And I've also ordered a Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 720. So this has ben my desicion to leave the Palm OS and try out the Windows Mobile OS.
Why this?
I'm not disapointed with the OS or the apps that I've used. But I'm not satisfied with the developing of new devices. If you take a closer look at FS 720, or any similar device, you'll see the obvious. VGA screen, 1,3 mp camera, wifi, BT, prepared for VOIP, better battery, USB connection and so on and so on. I think this is what al lot of you where hoping of before T5...
I'm not an expert, just a normal user. So I don't think I'm really capable of putting the OS up against each other. I'm really hoping this is not a stupid decision.
Reading about where Palm is going I dont think I want to "go down with the ship". I dont think the devices will have the same spes. for a long time, compared to what we allready can get now for almostg the same price.
When reading other posts in this forum it looks like a lot of you are stikking to Palm "for old times sake". This is not for me. I've tryed T3 for a year now, and I've loved the device, but I want to change before there is only dedicated users left.
But who knows, maybe in some time I'll change back to Palm?
Something I'll miss is all the good advices in the forum!
Palmviking
And I've also ordered a Fujitsu Siemens Pocket Loox 720. So this has ben my desicion to leave the Palm OS and try out the Windows Mobile OS.
Why this?
I'm not disapointed with the OS or the apps that I've used. But I'm not satisfied with the developing of new devices. If you take a closer look at FS 720, or any similar device, you'll see the obvious. VGA screen, 1,3 mp camera, wifi, BT, prepared for VOIP, better battery, USB connection and so on and so on. I think this is what al lot of you where hoping of before T5...
I'm not an expert, just a normal user. So I don't think I'm really capable of putting the OS up against each other. I'm really hoping this is not a stupid decision.
Reading about where Palm is going I dont think I want to "go down with the ship". I dont think the devices will have the same spes. for a long time, compared to what we allready can get now for almostg the same price.
When reading other posts in this forum it looks like a lot of you are stikking to Palm "for old times sake". This is not for me. I've tryed T3 for a year now, and I've loved the device, but I want to change before there is only dedicated users left.
But who knows, maybe in some time I'll change back to Palm?
Something I'll miss is all the good advices in the forum!
Palmviking
Palmviking,
You pretty much summed up my reasons for also dropping Palm and moving to Windows 2003 PDA.
Getting started under Windows 2003 takes a little longer than you might expect - suprisingly customizable hacker environment but well worth it
Good Luck,
Let me know if you have any ? on Windows 2003 migration.
KimH
You pretty much summed up my reasons for also dropping Palm and moving to Windows 2003 PDA.
Getting started under Windows 2003 takes a little longer than you might expect - suprisingly customizable hacker environment but well worth it
Good Luck,
Let me know if you have any ? on Windows 2003 migration.
KimH
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I'm not sure what this guy has been smoking but I'll just deal with three of his main points:
1.Porting the widely-known PalmOS GUI to other platforms
Like what other platforms? There are only two, Windows Mobile and Linux. What could Microsoft gain by using the Palm OS GUI? I mean, the Palm OS GUI is old and basically obsolete. What value does it bring to the table? As for Linux, I've heard this now for three years. Except for a relatively small subgroup of computer users, Linux is not making headway in the desktop market. Until it becomes more widely used on desktops, no Linux PDA is ever going to make enough money to even pay off the R&D costs.
2. Porting the widely-known PalmOS apps to other platforms
Like what widely known Palm OS apps? The only ones that PalmSource owns are the standard things like the Palm Datebook. Is there someone who thinks having the Palm Datebook on another platform is so revolutionary that someone would run out and buy it? The basic Palm apps are old, limited, and ugly. There's no market value in them compared to third party apps like DateBk5 and Agendus. Third party developers will port their apps to whatever platform allows them to make the most money. They are not going to be guided by what PalmOne thinks they should do.
3. Making the Palm Desktop a direct competitor to MS Outlook
This one is really hilarious. On one hand, this guy thinks that PalmOne will end up as a licensee of Windows Mobile while, at the same time, they are working to destroy one of the biggest cash cows that Microsoft has? Apparently, he thinks Bill Gates is a nicer guy now than he has been in the past. In addition, the Palm Desktop is a 1998 era program that's not even network aware, doesn't have integrated e-mail, and can't even link one item to another. We're talking about a rewrite from the ground up to even have a chance of competing with Outlook. Where's this capital coming from? Lotus Organizer, Ecco Pro, Groupwise, and a plethora of other Outlook competitors, many with better programs than Outlook, have already been effectively killed off by Outlook. There is zero chance that the Palm Desktop, in any form, will ever be a serious competitior to Outlook.
I have no idea what will finally happen with PalmOne, or the PDA market in general, but I believe it will all be a moot point in a few years. We'll have msartphones that incorporate all the PDA features we have now running either some version Windows Mobile or Symbian. They will be the big players, long after PalmOne is a memory.
1.Porting the widely-known PalmOS GUI to other platforms
Like what other platforms? There are only two, Windows Mobile and Linux. What could Microsoft gain by using the Palm OS GUI? I mean, the Palm OS GUI is old and basically obsolete. What value does it bring to the table? As for Linux, I've heard this now for three years. Except for a relatively small subgroup of computer users, Linux is not making headway in the desktop market. Until it becomes more widely used on desktops, no Linux PDA is ever going to make enough money to even pay off the R&D costs.
2. Porting the widely-known PalmOS apps to other platforms
Like what widely known Palm OS apps? The only ones that PalmSource owns are the standard things like the Palm Datebook. Is there someone who thinks having the Palm Datebook on another platform is so revolutionary that someone would run out and buy it? The basic Palm apps are old, limited, and ugly. There's no market value in them compared to third party apps like DateBk5 and Agendus. Third party developers will port their apps to whatever platform allows them to make the most money. They are not going to be guided by what PalmOne thinks they should do.
3. Making the Palm Desktop a direct competitor to MS Outlook
This one is really hilarious. On one hand, this guy thinks that PalmOne will end up as a licensee of Windows Mobile while, at the same time, they are working to destroy one of the biggest cash cows that Microsoft has? Apparently, he thinks Bill Gates is a nicer guy now than he has been in the past. In addition, the Palm Desktop is a 1998 era program that's not even network aware, doesn't have integrated e-mail, and can't even link one item to another. We're talking about a rewrite from the ground up to even have a chance of competing with Outlook. Where's this capital coming from? Lotus Organizer, Ecco Pro, Groupwise, and a plethora of other Outlook competitors, many with better programs than Outlook, have already been effectively killed off by Outlook. There is zero chance that the Palm Desktop, in any form, will ever be a serious competitior to Outlook.
I have no idea what will finally happen with PalmOne, or the PDA market in general, but I believe it will all be a moot point in a few years. We'll have msartphones that incorporate all the PDA features we have now running either some version Windows Mobile or Symbian. They will be the big players, long after PalmOne is a memory.