Pain during injection??? HELP!

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Snanny, I am not a doctor by any sense of the imagination but have had a spinal fusion L4,L5,S1 33 years ago and have had back problems for close to 40 years. I have had close to 80 to 90 injections of different types done on my back, most of them were done before the use of x-ray machines and nerves were hit among other things. I urge anyone considering injections to do some research on what they are using in the injection and to go to www.theburtonreport.com I'm pretty sure that's the address. There is also another site that has a lot of wonderful information on it
www.pain-topics.org/ this site also has information from a lot of different sources that is documented. Good luck with your back, I am totally disabled veteran now and became disabled when I was 40 years old I considered it such a drastic change from what I was use to that it ended me up on the mental ward for a few weeks. That was 6 years ago and I don't know if I'll ever get it together.
Hoping you all have as pain free day as possible.
God Bless- Cabledude.
 
I'm mostly just curious... Four weeks ago, I received my first spinal injection. HUGE success!! I went from nearly crippled to being able to walk. My son says I now walk fast even.

However, two days ago, I went in for my second injection. As the doctor was inserting the needle for the actual injection (after the local anesthetic), he hit a spot that sent excruciating pain through my back and leg. This did NOT happen the first time. He said he was not yet to the spine, so it should not hurt, but offered a referral for an injection at the hospital where they can put me under completely. I took the offer after he tried yet a second time with the same result. :confused:

I can't understand why this hurt so much when he did not even get to the spine. Since I am afraid of needles, I made my husband come in for both injections. He said the doctor was only about 2/3 of the way in when I cried out in pain this time.

Does anyone know what might cause this? I won't go in for another injection without being put out completely... I was afraid before. Terrified now! :eek:

By the way, for anyone looking for information on these injections because you have not had one yet, please ignore this. I am convinced that this is a rare occurence. The first one was only minimally painful, and I would HIGHLY recommend it if you're having serious back trouble. I think this is unique to my own back, but I'm sure that this must have happened to someone else in the course of medical history. That's what I'm looking for.

Does anyone have any insight into why this might have happened the second time? Should I ask a doctor to pursue the reason?
 
Was it nerve block injections? I went for them & I'm sure he hit a nerve I was in so much pain. That was in March & it has gotten worse w/time. Now I'm in horrible pain most of the time. I hope that didn't happen to you, as for me I'm sorry I got it. My daughter had those injections a yr ago & didn't have any pain just improvement so it doesn't happen to everyone.
 
Okay, well, I've finally given up. I was afraid of needles before this experience. But, evidently I've developed a phobia or serious fear. I couldn't make it through the next injection... panicked after the IV was inserted, and left. Later, when I was in my right mind again, I was disappointed in myself. But, I know I won't get my husband to drive the two hours again after two failed attempts. I've decided I will need to try a different route... exercise maybe??? I'm trying. I've done physical therapy for this when it was not as bad. Maybe those exercises will help now. I'm praying that is the case. We'll see. Good luck to all of you and thank you for your input!:wave:
 
He might have hit a nerve or an inflammed area. If the pain spread down your leg then it was probably a never. If it was localized to the area-who knows.

I have had two caudal injections with no problems...but you just never know. I do know that I won't let my surgeon do shots...he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. My PM does the shots and he is great!
 
Snanny, I'm with you on the needle phobia! I've been stabbed in the back so many times that just looking at a needle makes me break out in a sweat! Before my surgery in 08' I had to go through a Dico Gram, I quit in the middle of the fisrt on because it was so painful that it scared me mentally. I knew I had to have the surgery which meant I had to go back and take the test again. It took me five months to get the courage to go back but this time dispite my dr.'s orders I took a pain pill but what I should have taken was a traquilizer!! While I was in the pre op I was in there for hours and had enough time to have a anxiety attack! I sat there crying for hours worried about the pain I was going to feel from the needles! I some how managed to calm myself down before they came in for me. Needless to say I'm glad I took the medication and some understanding nurses that helped me out!
 
I can understand one's phobia, but if I hadn't had my countless Trigger points, 9 Medial Branch Block sessions, and 4 Radio Frequency Abalation treatments, I wouldn't be able to handle the Physical Therapy & Myofascial Release/Craniosacral Release sessions I am currently undergoing.

Prior to all this I was misdiagnosed, and had PT that exacerbated my torn Myofascia to the point where I couldn't handle any PT or exercise. Thank God for the injections. Without them I wouldn't have hope of returning to a normal life.
 
Gram4, Several of mine were nerve blocks I think that's what the worst two were when they hit nerves. To tell you the truth I would have to go through a mound of paper work to find out but they did, Facet blocks, Epidurals, Trigger points, 4 Mylegrams 3 of those leaked and they had to draw 30 cc of blood out of my arm and inject it directly into my spine and it is called a blood patch. They are for when the needle puncture hole doesn't seal up and you are leaking spinal fluid and you get these headaches that knock you to your knees if you try to stand up. The Veterans Hospital let it leak for 4 days before they told me to come back in they rushed me in through the ER put in an IV about half knocked me out and shot me down to a surgery room to do the 2 blood patches it took 2 each time they had to do it 20 cc's at a time. In my opinion if you have 3 to 5 injections spread out over 2 months and they don't help the AREN'T going to help the doctor just gets paid between $300 and $500 per injection so you see why they push them so hard. It's all about the almighty dollar in MOST instances. It has been proven the injections don't last the longer you have them the shorter amount of time they will start lasting, just my Bet on that.
May you all have as pain free a night as possible, I usually sleep about 2.5 to 3.5 hours per night, severe insomnia for over 15 years back related.
God Bless-Cabledude
 
PM doctors are definitely the route to go... bonus if they happen to be anesthesiologists like my doc... He depenRAB on me a lot to guide the needle and provide direction even when he is using streaming x-ray video to guide the needle.

~Myo :angel:
 
I remeraber when I had my CT Mylogram, the radiologist hit a nerve and I felt like I was being electrocuted down my left leg. That was the most horrible experience of my life.
 
Snanny,

I had two of those injections with no problems at the PM doc. Although neither of them worked, I ultimately was sent in for a myelogram. That doc (different) hit something and it was like the largest bolt of lightening welled up in my butt cheek and shot out the bottome of my foot at the speed of light. As the nurse and I jumped at the same time, I saw the doc pull his hanRAB away. His comment was "uh, I guess we are in". I said you think? After the myelogram, my hips and legs were nurab for about 20 minutes at least.

I agree, he must have either hit an extremely inflamed area or he was in and just hadnt seen it on the flouroscope guidance thingy. Knowing what i know know, I agree with you...KNOCK MY A@$ OUT!!!

Good luck and you are not alone!
 
This IS a guided injection with my PM doctor. He does thousanRAB of these, and HE is the one who said it should not hurt at that point. He was not far enough in to have hit a nerve. However, it obviously did hit something. That's what has me baffled. :confused:
 
Thats terrible, I'm having a hell of a time trying to find out if a floating piece of disc fragment I have is causing my severe pain. I'm trying NEW Dr (if I can get in) the waiting is so long w/those Dr's.
 
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