(OT) Priceline NegotiatorTM

J. Clarke wrote:

I stopped buying McDonalds coffee before the suit precisely because the
stuff was too d*mn hot to drink. See my point above that I like to
drink the coffee not to dance around it as it comes down to painless
temperature. Dancing in circles is fun enough for its own purposes but
not as a passtime until I can drink the coffee.

After the suit I tried it again. It had a warning label but the stuff
was still unacceptably hot. Screw them. I have the occasional meal
there but I haven't had their coffee in a while. Just from temperature
alone it sucks. If they aren't willing to sell coffee that I can drink
then why should I buy it?
 
On 2011-03-01, Doug Freyburger wrote:


Properly brewed coffee is brewed at a temperature right around 200 deg
F. That's too hot to drink, so you must let it cool down. The prob
with fast food places is, they pour directly into foam cups that are
insanely efficient at holding temperatures. You have a choice. Wait
for the coffee to cool, regardless of how long it takes, or get coffee
brewed at sub-optimum temps. IOW, drink crappy coffee.

Ya gotta be smarter than the food.

nb
 
notbob wrote:

That's why I like espresso better than drip. It is brewed hotter so it
tastes better. But I like the strength level of drip so I get
Americanos at esspresso places. Then I have them add one third ice
because that's the amount it takes to bring it done fairly close to body
temperature. Wa la, drinking temperature coffee from the first second.


Those aren't the only choices. Chefs in restaurants dunk hot veggies in
an ice bath to cool them down to stop them from wilting. The result is
cooked veggies that are still crunchy.

Start with an empty cup and guess how much ice to put in it. Then pour
the coffee that was brewed as hot as possible into the cup onto the ice.
The next time adjust your initial guess of how much ice to use. It only
takes a few tries until you have found the optimal amount of ice to
match your personal tastes.

The hotter the coffee is brewed the better it tastes. That does *not*
map to the hotter the coffee is drunk the better it tastes. My ideal of
a review of the ideal coffee does not sound like this -

Searing pain with an aftertaste of burnt flesh. Any flavor the coffee
might have had was overwhelmed by the pain. In spite of being filtered
carefully the coffee was chunky. It turned out to be the outer layers
of the flesh inside my mouth peeling off because the coffee was just too
d*mn hot to drink in the first place.

But that does rather accurately describe McDonalds coffee. Give me some
place I can watch the person dump some ice in the cup before pouring
and/or I can hear the sound of the ice going into the cup. Give me a
place with self serve drinks so I can add the ice to my cup myself
before pouring the coffee over it. Either way beats the burnt flesh
review. Either way results inb coffee that I can actually drink not
just set in the holder and wait.

Trying to think if I've been to a McDonalds with self serve coffee
recently. That big brown machine marked Joe is at Burger King, right?
Any espresso place with a barrista beats them for a price. Any coffee
place where I can watch the person add ice beats them at the same price.
 
Doug Freyburger wrote:


So, Wa la you want to drink coffee that's tepid.
Ugh. I expect hot beverages to be hot. I know it will be a sipping thing
until it cools down a bit more, but I sure don't want it "close to body
temperature" !
 
Goomba wrote:

Absolutely. Optimally flavored coffee at a pain free temperature.
Tepid is the correct technical term for the temperature.
 
On 3/1/2011 10:18 AM, notbob wrote:


Hmmm. My Keurig came programmed for 191? F. Should I be changing the
temperature for different kinds of coffee, like espresso?

I still have to let it cool before I can drink it even at 191? but
that's just my tender, previously nuked mouth.

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
 
On 2011-03-01, Janet Wilder wrote:


While there are espresso blends, espresso is a brewing method, not a
kind of coffee.

For coffee:

http://coffeefaq.com/site/node/26

Brewing temps for espresso are similar. I had my espresso machine
tweaked for 201-203F. These temps are argued endlessly, which is no
doubt why a range was provided.

You don't eat hot bacon right out of the bacon, do you. Like I said,
gotta be smarter than the food.

nb
 
Janet Wilder wrote:

Is there a menu to select the temperature? Thanks, I'll look through
the menu tonight. To me the hotter the brew the better the flavor.


I have tried 3 and 4 ice cubes in the mug for the coffee to be poured
onto. Brew at your chosen temerature; drink at your chosen temperature.
Their is no reason for those two temperatures to be the same.
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:09:28 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:


I'm someone who likes a little coffee with their cream, so it's
probably for people like us.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:01:33 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:


When I was working, I'd give them my metal reusable coffee mug that I
kept in the car. Between warming up the metal cup and warming up all
the cream I dumped in it, the coffee was at a nice drinkable stage for
me. I like hot coffee, I just don't want to be scalded.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
On 2/24/2011 9:25 AM, zxcvbob wrote:

I'm sorry for your loss and very glad you can go to the funeral. Also
thanks for the info about priceline! I used to use them for groceries
when they did that.
 
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