OT: It's Catherine with a C, folks

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Vasiliki-Freshness

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If she's going to be a topic for a while, can we at least spell her name
right?

BTW, she's not Princess Catherine, because she is not a princess in her own
right; she is Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cambridge. Should you run
across her in the local Tesco, you may address her as Your Royal Highness.

Well, it matters to some of us!

Felice
the grumpy old Tory

OB Food: For dessert after the smoked salmon breakfast, I served a killer
English Trifle
 
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Kalmia wrote:

The title is William's, she just married into it ;).

There have been previous Dukes of Cambridge. The title "of Cambridge" was
originally in the Royal Family as "Earl of Cambridge" for a younger son of
Edward III and subsumed back into the Crown when the Cambridge branch
eventually took the throne (or, maybe the title had been forfeit and just
not reused until then).

"Duke of Cambridge" was first used for sons of James II, then Duke of
York, who did not survive infancy.

There has been one previous royal Duchess, but the last previous Duke of
Cambridge was a grandson of George III who died without legitimate male
issue.

No, I don't know this all by heart! Wikipedia can be your friend.

I don't think Wills gets land/additional income with the title. My
understanding is that most of the actual real estate is owned by
either the Queen or the Prince of Wales (from the Duchy of Cornwall).
HM may raise his payments from the Royal Lists because his new Duchess
will no doubt be doing Royal work (the visits, etc.) and once he finishes
his service in Wales, they'll get houses.

obFood: "Duchy Originals" line of organic foods. Amazing how much the
Prince of Wales was regarded as a bit of a crank when he started this
stuff, and it's fairly mainstream now.

Charlotte
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Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:
I haven't checked but I don't feel the holdings of the Duchy of
Cornwall would include Cambridge. They're on opposite sides of
England.
 
Kalmia wrote:

Its got an provenance, how interesting that may be to any one is another
matter.

The Present Queens Grandmother Queen Mary (Wife of George V) was a
daughter of a German Prince named Teck who married a grand daughter of
George III.

During WWI when the British Royal Family officially changed its name
from the Germanic Saxe Coburg Goth, Guelph & etc. to Windsor various
familial relations with Germanic names & styles & titles also changed
theirs. Thus the Prince of Teck became the Earl of Cambridge because of
her Mothers father. The Battenburgs became Mountbattens, Marqueses of
MIlford Haven in the senior line,

The Dukes of Cambridge were originally Queen Mary's Uncle and
Grandfather, respectively Son and Grandson of George III. Whose line
went extinct iirc, not in abeyance, but extinct due to a lack of male heirs.

The last Duke of Cambridge was Prince George a cousin of Queen Victoria.

His title Duke of Cambridge fell into disuse upon his death. It was not
revived until 107 years later, when Queen Elizabeth II awarded the title
to her grandson Prince William, Duke of Cambridge on 29 April 2011, the
day he married Kate Middleton, who in turn became the Duchess of Cambridge.




No. He gets those as an accident of birth, or death considering the
estate left to him and his brother by his mother, her divorce settlement
was around $30,000,000 iirc. Plus all the jewellery and other expensive
gifts & real property she was given. It all went to her sons.
Including the Cambridge "lovers knot" diamond and pearl Tiara the Queen
Gave Princess Diana as a wedding gift. That thing alone, given its
provenance, would easily fetch $10,000,000. at a well publicized auction.

Princess Margaret's kids had to sell her "Poltimore Tiara" just to pay
the taxes on inheriting it:)

http://www.christies.com/special_sites/woodwork/specialist.asp

William & Harry probly had to pay death duties on their mothers estate,
but when William inherits from his father he wont have to, though Harry
will unless by some change he succeeds to the throne.

Which has been the case of 2nd sons doing so for a couple of
generations, both the present Queens father and grand father were 2nd
sons. The spare of the heir and the spare.



Wearing a silken cord? sipping champagne from a ladies slipper?
--
JL
 
Charlotte L. Blackmer wrote:


Even his father, Philip, has come around to it after being initially,
contemptuously dismissive of his sons interest in organic farming.
--
JL
 
Dora wrote:

The Duchy of Cornwall as well as the Queens Duchy of Lancaster own
properties all over Britain.

The Earl Mountbatten is of "Burma" (not Myanmar:) and then there's Earl
Alexander of Tunis. Both titles given for services during W.W.II.

Had Charles & Camilla not used the Cornwall title, William would probly
have been known by the courtesy title of Duke of Cornwall though it is
fully within the Queens prerogative to grant him armorial standing of
his own, he's already a knight of the Garter iirc, and has subsidiary
titles to go along with the Ducal status (Earl of Strathearn and Baron
Carrickfergus) so that his children, at least any males will have
courtesy titles available to them along with their princely status.

It has been speculated that Harry will be given his Grandfather, Prince
Philips, secondary title Earl of Merioneith upon his marriage to use as
a courtesy title during his Grandfathers life and assume his ducal &
other styles and titles after his Grandfathers death. Quite possibly as
Prince Henry Mountbatten-Windsor, Though his children will not inherit
his princely title unless he succeeds to the throne. Any Children of
Harry's will then have to muddle through life as an ordinary non royal Duke.
--
JL
 
"Ophelia" wrote in message
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She HAS the title, but apparently does not choose to be known by it.


Yes, I do remember Lady Diana, who was incorrectly called Princess Diana
because she was neither born a princess nor created one by the Queen.

I'm not an expert on styles and titles and I hope someone will let me know
if I am wrong!

Felice
 
"Lyndon Watson" wrote in message
news:da78a5ff-bca1-4ee4-b88b-6b0d883a34a3@f15g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On May 1, 3:51 pm, "Bob Terwilliger"
wrote:

Felice is right. Diana was entitled to be called "Diana, Princess of
Wales" by virtue of her marriage, and the queen granted her the right
to use the title after the divorce, but *not* the style "Royal
Highness". She was never Princess Diana and, after the divorce, she
had that courtesy title, but not the rank of princess.

LW

And it MATTERS, dammit! Nice to know others think so, Lyndon!

Felice
 
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