[OT] iPhone "leaks like a sieve"

On 4/24/2011 12:00 AM, dsi1 wrote:

The visible night sky is well mapped and there have been apps around for
a long time. If you know your position on earth and the time of day you
can present the appropriate map showing what it is possible to see.
Pretty much the same as the way a GPS displays a map. It determines
where it is relative to a model of the earth and then gets the known
mapping info it has for that location and displays it.
 
On 4/24/2011 7:24 AM, Andy wrote:


And without delving into if it actually works how would you know it
actually does anything? It isn't some sort of easily observable thing
like turning off the light in the bedroom.


Sure it is. Apple is a manufacturer of devices and it squarely shares
the responsibility just like all other manufacturers of similar devices
do. Why exactly was Apple recording everyones position? What else does
the device do that we don't know about?

Personal smart communications devices are becoming very pervasive and
there are many people like me who want to know exactly what they are
doing and how the providers and manufacturers are respecting my freedom
and privacy. It isn't at all acceptable to not expect more from them.



Known what? That we always need to be vigilant?
 
In article ,
notbob wrote:



The most important thing is to have the information. Then you can
concentrate on controlling and restricting it. The Jews in Europe were
just sent to relocation camps for the duration of the war. This
parallels what happened in the US, where the Japanese-Americans were
sent to relocation camps. Many of my relatives lived in Germany during
WWII. They fully expected the Jews to come back after the war. They
didn't know that the story they were told was a lie, and that the Jews
weren't coming back, because they were dead.

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
[email protected]
 
George wrote:

is
lot
devices
freedom


George,

The world is your oyster.

Make the most of it while you can.

Screw hi tech. I'm a big fan but not necessarily a follower.

Best,

Andy
 
George wrote:


Not to be paranoid, but the same thing crossed my mind.
A lot of these people have shown that they don't respect
privacy and don't get why people think it's a big deal. Sort
of like facebook changing privacy settings on a whim every
now and then. Ooops, sorry ... then two months later they
pull another stunt.


It's not like these devices are free. They cost a lot of money, one
would hope they'd be for your use, not for the selling to collect data
about you. Maybe they should pay *you* to carry around these
devices that are collecting data for them.

nancy

nancy
 
On 21 Apr 2011 16:32:15 GMT, notbob wrote:


You don't have one so why are you assuming everyone else does?

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On 2011-04-24, George wrote:


This kinda crap is becoming all too pervasive. Car rentals not only
started putting GPS devices in cars, but fined folks for exceeding the
speed limit in the vehicle. That got shot down tout de suite cuz the
cops didn't like the competition, but other slimey stuff remains.
Most ppl are unaware some ABS braking systems can record vehicle
speeds, so if you are in an accident and the device reveals you were
speeding when you hit the brakes, your insurance can use that info to
negate any claim you might file. Hello! That $100 mo you've been
paying is money down the toilet cuz your car jes ratted you out! :|

nb
 
On 21 Apr 2011 19:07:15 GMT, notbob wrote:


Because you're going off the deep end.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
"notbob" wrote

Do you have information that any claims have been denied? I know the
information has been used in investigations, but I have never heard of a
claim denied.
 
On 22/04/2011 5:07 AM, notbob wrote:

Maybe notbob can't afford one and hates to think everyone else has one.
Hence his attempt to discredit the iPhone.

I'm half inclined to get one but can't really see myself doing any more
with it than I do with my current Nokia. I use my Nokia as a phone and
the calendar app. That's just about it. I don't even store recipes on
it! Hard to justify an iPhone when that's all I do.

Krypsis
 
On 2011-04-23, Krypsis wrote:


I had you pegged as one who was at least semi computer literate and
likely to see my post for what it was, a heads-up on a possible
security issue.

"Hates to think"!? Stood in front of a mirror, lately?

nb
 
On 2011-04-24, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


I'm not an insurance company.


Well Hell, it must not have happened, then. We all know how
scrupulously honest insurance companies are.

nb
 
On 23/04/2011 12:24 PM, notbob wrote:
I have avoided then apple phones with good reason, I simply dislike the
apple ethos and now it seems that feeling was correct , my current htc
runs a free o/s which appears to not have secrets

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X-No-Archive: Yes
 
On 4/24/2011 9:15 AM, Nancy Young wrote:


Sleezy folks who lack a moral compass never think they are sleezy.



Exactly, Offer a free device and service for anyone who wants it with
the condition users give up all privacy. If someone pays for a device
and service you respect their privacy rights.
 
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