Obama is like a bad trainwreck that you can't turn away from

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Depends on if you consider the drop that all presidents see post election as "significant". I doubt any non-partisan person would.

Which is why I noted that to date it is the smallest post election change for any of the last 12 presidents. That will probably be altered in the future, but it's worth noting to this point considering the recent uneventful changes in his ratings.

But don't let that get in the way of your blind wanderings.
 
i love how it's so far removed from most every other poll. Gee i wonder what their bias could be...
 
My blind wanderings have more to do with your "graph manipulations". You claim the graph doesn't show something that it does with elitist graph-speak.

Whether one takes it as meaningful is irrelevant. 20% drop is significant no matter which way you spin it.

Take your blind graphings somewhere else.
 
maybe reporters at a white house press conference can ask him about the polls. oh yeah the open government transparent president does not hold press conferences
 
No shit. It's just the Obama sacriders doing ANYTHING to try to spin the numbers that "their boy" is sucking dick.
 
Yes, mind bottling words and misdirection by referencing simple fact.

Elitist Graph speak. The graph I produced was to show how two apparently dissimilar pieces of information can be produced from similar data to display two different appearances.

i.e. That gallup and rasmussen are very similar over the long trend. In fact they are consistently similar.

Why then do they present their data differently?
My point was that rasmussen is being dramatic by using a narrower window. While gallup tries to draw it out. They are both "correct" but they are manipulating the presentation.

I didn't say that he hadn't dropped. I said it wasn't significant.



Relevant to what? Significant against himself...sure. What does it mean in historical context is a better question. Only idiots that jerk off to chaotic swings in daily poll numbers are stupid enough to ignore history.

Oh let's play a game.....what are the margins between recent presidents high and low ratings?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116677/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-Gallup-Historical-Statistics-Trends.aspx#1
Obama - 24%
GW Bush - 65%
Clinton - 36%
G Bush - 60%
Reagan - 33%
Carter - 47%
Ford - 34%
Nixon - 43%
Johnson - 44%
Kennedy - 27%
Eisenhower - 31%
Truman - 65%
Roosevelt - 36%


All-Time Presidential Low Approval Ratings
Obama - 45%
GW Bush - 25%
Clinton - 37%
G bush - 29%
Reagan - 35%
Carter - 28%
Ford - 37%
Nixon - 24%
Johnson - 35%
Kennedy - 56%
Eisenhower - 48%
Truman - 22%
Roosevelt - 48%


So while you're sitting there going AHA! he's finally dropped he's plummeting. He's been fairly consistent so far. Now as I've said a few times in this thread....it's quite early in his first term. So we shall see how it continues to play out. But in reality the massive drops seen on Rasmussen should be scrutinized....because they are mere graph alteration. Considering how similar he is to Gallup.
 
Yup, should be interesting, given he has only 16 months in. All the others have between 4 and 12 years.

I'm sure somewhere there is a table that shows the widest delta in the first year, 2 years, etc. Would be interesting to see how Obama stacks on the 1 year chart.

... Oh yeah, here is something like that, and guess what .... Obama has the biggest drop.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123806/obama-quarterly-approval-average-slips-nine-points.aspx
 
Yup and many presidents had worse Q1-Q2 drops or worse Q3-Q4 in their first year than Obama's Q2-Q3 which was his worst.
 
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