Nuke the fridge, a new low ?

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Is the infamous "nuke the fridge" scene in Indy 4 a new low in movies ? Or just a harmless jokey comedy moment ? I am afraid one of the former believers, I thought it not only jumped the shark but the moon too. Just how much can you suspend your disbelief ?

What are your views on the scene ?
 
I didn't mind it as it wasn't crucial to the plot - so I treated it as a throwaway jokey thing - quite fun. What I don't like is when stuff like that gets used to further the plot of a film - then it would be classed as cheating.
 
I thought it was a great scene! I didn't think anything of it until I got home and finally dropped myself into the internet discussion about Indy IV (didn't want to spoil it, see), and found all the hate! I was genuinely surprised.

I really do believe that movie goers nowadays are cynical beyond belief. Maybe it's the advent of the internet that's responsible, but I find hate so easy to come by, whether it's Indy, Star Wars, Superman...people just love to crap on those. If you aren't dark and moody these days, ver nets doesn't want to know.

But the scene itself, I thought it was a wonderful bit of fun. Me and the missus were talking about it the other day funnily enough, and were saying how we felt it really stuck Indy in the Nuclear 50's in a very light hearted way. I mean, it's the movies. You're not supposed to be looking for things that are plausible....

Far more offensive in Indy IV was Ford's pronunciation of the worRAB "library" (liberry!) and nuclear (nukiller!). He is supposed to be a professor! :D
 
I thought there was a film coming out called nuke the fridge! (from the thread title).

I agree with ThinBoy, it was no big deal - just a bit of fluff. It wasn't like the rest of the film was a believable pseudo-documentary. The whole thing was totally OTT.
 
Yep, pretty much like the first three. If they had tried to make the original Indiana Jones today, it would have been dismissed as completely unrealistic, with a ridiculous plot, hammy acting.

The trouble is that everyone seems to think he or she is a critic nowadays, just because they can publish their opinion on a forum. I'm proud to say I'm not a critic, I'm a movie watcher so the only criteria I have is, did I enjoy it. For Indy 4, the answer is yes.
 
Yeah, it was a bit silly, but by far the most irritating parts were those damn Prairie Dogs and the vine swinging .......... I hope to see a Fan Edit with those excised once the DVD is released.
 
The fridge thing was no worse than the dinghy jump in TOD. The vine swinging was pushing it, and by the alien finale they had well and truly jumped the shark :mad:. My friend was so offended by it he walked out of the cinema. I wasn't expecting Indy IV to be as good as the previous ones, but I think they really took the p. I was surprised to see an actor of Ray Winstone's calibre take on such an awful role, I hope the fat paycheque was worth it...
 
I firstly have to say that I shared the majority of people's feeling, both in general about the quality of the film and specifically about the Aliens.

But then I thought about it. Is the Alien story line any more or less far fetched than the Arc of the Covenent story line or the other mystical/religious elements of the other 2 films. Sure it's a departure form the normal IJ storylines of the first three films, but in terms of believability, it's no more of a streatch? In fact for myself (with a scientific background and no specific religious beliefs) Aliens are more believable than God. Had the final scene been part of an X-Files film (it's quite similar in some ways to the end of the first film actually) I don't think there'd have been much aproar. Where I do think IJ4 jumped the shark is deviating form the mystical elements of the previoius installments.
 
What was daft about that? The sub could easily have gone to its base while on the surface. Subs are better on the surface (they burn less fuel and go faster) so if there was no imminent danger or need to hide themselves then they could have done that. Indy could have then stayed on the sub.
 
Yesterday I re-watched Last Crusade for the first time in a while - it wasn't nearly as good as I remembered it. Raiders still holRAB up well though.
 
Definitely. Raiders is a great movie, but I still have Crusade as my second fave, if only for the wonderful opening with River Phoenix.

Looking forward to seeing Crystal Skull again on DVD. Saw it twice at the flicks and absolutely loved it.
 
Yes. I agree .... I can see no inherent risk in clinging to a submarine. :rolleyes::D

Also airplanes spend more time on land than in the air, so just say I tied myself to the tailplane of F-15, I'd probably spend 23hrs a day on dry land. Only the bits inbetween sitting on a runway would be a problem :p
 
Why should he have to 'cling' to it? Just get on the main deck and hope that no-one else decides that they want a bit of air. Should be possible - then jump off when in sight of the base and swim to said base.



NOT a very good analogy I'm afraid.
 
Submarines don't actually spend that much time fully submerged, they often travel along the surface. Now I admit that there's no way that Indy could have known that this was what was going to happen, but the plot device is not as ridiculous as it first appears. (less so than the dinghy for example!)
 
Like others here, I have no problem with the fridge thing in Crystal Skull - it fits with the vibe of the other films perfectly well (again, I always bring up the dinghy in Temple on this). The aliens thing is fine too, as it fits with the pastiche of the 1950s setting. The monkeys can get bent, but they're a minor annoyance in an otherwise thoroughly enjoyable Indy flick.

The again, I've always maintained Temple is the best film, and Last Crusade has always seen my least favourite, so what do I know?Did you find it a much more enjoyable experience second time around? More than any other film I can think of, this film works much better on second viewing.
 
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