Now who likes Pedrosa again???

edgar_2742

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I don't know so much about cooperation in teams. The first person you want to beat is your teammate. They are both professionals (or should be) with the same task, development. No need to look at each others test papers. That being said, the shit talking should be kept to yourself, especially at that level. I think Stoner and Hayden will get along fine. I don't think they'll be swapping notes though.
 
Re-read my post. I think it is clear, I never say a word about sledging one of my own. In fact, I try to point out the opposite.

Read my post. You stated that Pedrosa and his camp were full of it because they were sledging Hayden. I stated that maybe what they were saying may have been true. Just because he was saying bad things about one of yours (U.S.) doesn't necessarily mean it is bullsh*t. I was saying that he for sure would have a better idea of what was going on in the pits than you guys. A bit of one-eyed patriotism on your part does not mean he is speaking sh*t.

Again, you failed to read my post. Did I say word one about how Hayden would ride? Has anyone in this thread?

I was refering to the reference to the other thread linked in the post. There were major predictions about how wondeful Hayden would go on the Ducati, when he hasn't ridden the thing yet.

Well, as someone else posted, which of the two has won a premier class championship? I think that says enough about your comments here.....

I know hayden won a championship......under very lucky circumsatances. Hayden can only win at home. pedrosa has won a few world chapionships too. I meant to say that I would bet Pedrosa would win the next, before Hayden. Your man will only win when Rossi, stoner and Pedrosa crash.
 
To be more clear:

1-I am a Stoner fan, as well as Hopper. Hayden is cool, but not my favorite. Maybe it is the southern accent. I do find his honesty and humility refreshing compared to most of the other guys out there.

2-I love it how I am a for pointing out when someone who should keep his mouth shut 'cause his rider crashes 40% of the time. He only opens it to stir the pot. Waste of time and lack of class.

3-You seem bound and determined to be objectionary and contrary in this thread. I am sorry if you are a Pedrosa fan. I do think he can ride like a god, but I get tired of hearing from him and his manager how it is the tires, the weather, the team, the bike, anything but him that causes him to fail to produce results. TO deflect this and keep the focus off his failures as a rider they atack their teammate. Weak, unclassy, and childish. Not what our sport needs. Hell, even Alonso sounded more professional in the post race conference today after the Japa GP. Maybe if Pedrosa goes a year or two riding poorly on a team that doesn't win he will come out the other side acting more like a grownup and less like a Formula-BMW teenage baby.
 
Ah, you misunderstand. I am certainly not a pedrosa fan......far from it in fact. I do rate pedrosa higher than hayden though. I am very happy to see Stoner beating them both.

I was determined to be objectionary and contrary because it sounded like a crock to me. Your original post was a bit of a rant, as you stated at the end of it. I just tried to put an alternate view forward.
 
Point taken. In the end I hope we all benefit from the shake-ups in the Paddock. As I said, I hate it when in any motorsport the focus becomes less results and more finger pointing.

It's not that I hate Pedrosa. I just hate insescant whining.....probably more from his manager than anywhere....
 
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Oct/081010ajl.htm
How about this article? I think it gives quite an interesting perspective using some of Puig and Pedrosa's complaints.
 
Well, that has clearly been written by an american/hayden fan. It is just someones point of view (blog) and certainly not a journalists article. Quoting "rumours" and "knowledgable sources" is just a way of putting your own views forward without any facts to support. Was this written by Ducatispot.usa?.

And Hayden "developing" the 211 solely.....I think he inherited a pretty good bike from some bloke called Rossi. For sure, pedrosa has been beating his team mate for the last couple of years.
 
robotrosa will never win a championship.............he can not ride in the rain and there are 2 better riders out there ( stoner and vale )......plus he is on a honda...
 
I wouldn't go that far. Things just have to come together for him on a consistent basis. Look at Nicky and Stoner, they didn't dominate the entire year, it is about consistently finishing races, and winning a couple. He has the skills, I just wis he didn't have the attitude he has, or the manager who can't keep hid mouth shut.
 
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