I agree but if they sell them unbranded and free of the cingular shackles then why not try and turn a dime? I mean ****, they already manufactured the damn things..why not extend their network to NA's. Hell, they dont even need to have em in stock...just ship the mofos from hongkong like every other online retailer and ill be happy. I just want a genuine Nokia warranty! (and I know they are slow and a pain in the *** but which warranty department isnt)