Nokia N76 Announced!!!!

We just don't agree. I don't think "Cingular" is the wild-card here. It is:This is a brand spankin' new phone. New form-factor. Problems are to be expected.All reports I've heard and seen have been of problems that are much more likely hardware than software. To me it almost feels like you selectively ignore those. To be fair, the initial reports I heard were from guys who actually worked with the phone at Cingular and may have had ego tied up in blaming Nokia, but their descriptions did not sound branding-related and it didn't sound like they were branded phones even. More recent reports have continued on that same vein.There are no other Series 60 American carriers right now. By the same standards you're applying, you could claim that American frequencies are at fault, for example.The sample size of unbranded Nokias in the U.S. is rather small. And I have heard and read a lot about troubles getting them running. Perhaps it's that same selectiveness in your reading, but check out the Opera Mini forums for example on those types of woes. Perhaps they can be made to work reliably, but considering the smaller sample size, they account for a disproportionate amount of the apparent support woes.I could understand your viewpoint if other U.S. carriers (yes, the U.S. market is the discussion) carried Series 60 more successfully or if Nokia was successfully selling the N75 or N76 right now any where else. But neither of those is the case.
 
We're probably going to have to agree to disagree here. I see your point that there are no other American S60 carriers, but that, imo, isn't because of phone stability or branding problems.

I half-agree with the new form factor. There was the 6260, N71, N90, N93 and now N93i. However, other than the N933 none of those were wildly popular, so I'll take a draw on that point.

The reports that I've read are that the phone locks up like crazy. To me, that's firmware/software problems. I'm not a cellphone engineer, though, so I could be wrong. Locking up and randomly restarting are the only problems that I have read about. if you can point me to other problems, then I'm all eyes, but that's what I've got to go on.

I will accept that there's a possibility that there's trouble with the US 3G bands and S60, though reluctantly, because there's already 7-8 other US 3G phones, though only 3 of them are smartphones.

Your last point is limited only to the N75. Look in the past at other phones that were released both as branded units and unbranded. In every single case, the branded units had serious problems that the unbranded ones didn't. That tells me something. I had the first batch of 6682s. That phone should NOT have been allowed to leave the shelf. Unbranded and it was stable and fine. 6230, though not an S60 device, was the same way. The Cingular branded unit had bluetooth troubles, stability troubles. Unbranded and the problems go away. That sounds pretty cut and dry to me.
 
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