Okay, this is what I'm driving at. When I started this thread, this is what I'd experienced. I followed the normal procedure for setting up email on my E75. Follow the prompts, Accept the Terms (which means I subscribed to Nokia Messaging, an excellent service which plays middleman between an IMAP server and a Nokia mobile), enjoy bliss. It simply worked. Do the same on the N8, no Push.
BTW, I appreciate that many of you have implemented workarounds which eventually got you Almost-Push, and I'm happy that you're happy. But that's not what this thread's about. Many of us want what Blackberry and iPhone deliver without drama. Email arrives in an IMAP server, phone beeps, look at screen, read email. All in rapid succession. There's PUSH and there's FETCH. We're talking about PUSH here. FETCH lots, FETCH often, FETCH really really fast with Look!! No Hands, Ma!... still not PUSH.
I appreciate the advice of the guy with the $20/mo solution and I know all about MfE, where you can't send email or replies, only read incoming email. No Thanks.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to be furiously disappointed with the N8 over this issue alone. Thanks for wading in, all of you. I appreciate the time people take in these discussions. I learn so much, Ipay nothing for it. Thanks again.