HannahGoregasm(=
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what ? no bold? what is this gibberish! i hope this is a good very late april fool joke... this is what everyone has been waiting for-- well at least all tmobile blackberry owners!
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No Bold for TMO?
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scarecrowmasked
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We should start a petition against T-Mobile USA Inc to make sure that they get the Bold because there really isn't any reason why they shouldn't get it if their Germany Subsidiary is and they launched 3G in some parts already.
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IF T-Mobile in the UK can get the Bold, then why isn't the US T-mobile getting the Bold?
Can some explain this to me.
Article on T-Mobile UK Bold Release.
READ THIS: http://lifestyle.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15104
Can some explain this to me.
Article on T-Mobile UK Bold Release.
READ THIS: http://lifestyle.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=15104
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yeah don't buy in to the hype!
Your "sources" within T-mobile are as useless as texting devices are to a man with no arms.
1) No way we can have it by Sept or before 2009 as AT&T has exclusive Bold rights which is the typical 90 days, but I hear they may have 180 on this one.
2) to answer the question:
Outside of the exclusivity rights (read above) Tmobile's 3G in the US runs on a different band than out in the UK. Tmo back in (don't even remember the date now) bid and won on the 1700mhz (a non-world standard) so the 3G runs of 1700/2100mhz. That does not match up with ATT or Euro/Asia standard which means it's incompatible.
Long story short, no version released of the Bold support our 3G. There's a lot of finger pointing as to whose fault it is since ATT stepped in with the odd frequency choice of their own many years back (850/1900) and basically rushed into the 3G game, but at the same time if we all waited on Deutche Telecom (Tmo's parent company), CDMA carriers would've been the only 3G game in town (US) until now so.. (Devil's Advocate on that one)
3) ANY 3G bb we may possibly get in the future would need to have our band, which no other carriers in North America carry at this time, so RIM would have to put in our special 3g chip which they could only sell to Tmo customers (though I hear a Canada bid will be going on eventually). We may have this friendly little community, but end of the day RIM is about profit margin. They are a worldwide handset provider.. what sense would it make for them to rush to put out a phone that they could only sell to ONE provider and not even the largest, but the 4th largest, who has a relatively tiny bb userbase, just so they can have 3G in one of a handful of cities? Tmobile hasn't completed their nationwide rollout even. It would not make sense for Tmobile to carry a non-specialized Bold since without support of the 1700/2100mhz, it'd just be a glorified Curve since you'd be forced to use EDGE.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion. Let the rumors die.
1) No way we can have it by Sept or before 2009 as AT&T has exclusive Bold rights which is the typical 90 days, but I hear they may have 180 on this one.
2) to answer the question:
Outside of the exclusivity rights (read above) Tmobile's 3G in the US runs on a different band than out in the UK. Tmo back in (don't even remember the date now) bid and won on the 1700mhz (a non-world standard) so the 3G runs of 1700/2100mhz. That does not match up with ATT or Euro/Asia standard which means it's incompatible.
Long story short, no version released of the Bold support our 3G. There's a lot of finger pointing as to whose fault it is since ATT stepped in with the odd frequency choice of their own many years back (850/1900) and basically rushed into the 3G game, but at the same time if we all waited on Deutche Telecom (Tmo's parent company), CDMA carriers would've been the only 3G game in town (US) until now so.. (Devil's Advocate on that one)
3) ANY 3G bb we may possibly get in the future would need to have our band, which no other carriers in North America carry at this time, so RIM would have to put in our special 3g chip which they could only sell to Tmo customers (though I hear a Canada bid will be going on eventually). We may have this friendly little community, but end of the day RIM is about profit margin. They are a worldwide handset provider.. what sense would it make for them to rush to put out a phone that they could only sell to ONE provider and not even the largest, but the 4th largest, who has a relatively tiny bb userbase, just so they can have 3G in one of a handful of cities? Tmobile hasn't completed their nationwide rollout even. It would not make sense for Tmobile to carry a non-specialized Bold since without support of the 1700/2100mhz, it'd just be a glorified Curve since you'd be forced to use EDGE.
I hope this clears up some of the confusion. Let the rumors die.
squeekyboard
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Good job BN of making sense of the whole thing. I knew TMo wasn't gonna get the Bold anytime soon especially when TMo won't be finish with their 27 city roll out of 3G by the end of the year at the earliest. Plus, at least another 3 months after AT&T gets it....if not more. I'm just waiting on the Javelin anyway
IzzySparkle
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Now there's something realistic to wait for.
Mr Mangoes
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Honestly, this forum tends to know more information on Tmo releases than Tmo does. One rep I had the pleasure of speaking to was actually honest enough (when I had asked about Curve release, this before it came) that according to rabroad, it would be released "in the next few months".
I posted on this board that the Curve does not support MMS video msging when Tmo was still advertising that it was capable. Shortly after they came out with a conversion which turned the mms vids into two seperate attachments, an animated GIF and a wav file which would then show up on non-vid MMS capable phones in that format. Again, the average rep did not know about the feature that could be turned on/off server side. Finally it was implemented as automatically on(the phones do not do the converting though a few less than clever reps may argue otherwise).
Take what you read from "offical" sources with a grain of salt, though in this case, it's actually accurate.
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time frame is about a year back, before talks of 4.5 and the inline mms vid ability it brought, when the Curve first dropped.
I posted on this board that the Curve does not support MMS video msging when Tmo was still advertising that it was capable. Shortly after they came out with a conversion which turned the mms vids into two seperate attachments, an animated GIF and a wav file which would then show up on non-vid MMS capable phones in that format. Again, the average rep did not know about the feature that could be turned on/off server side. Finally it was implemented as automatically on(the phones do not do the converting though a few less than clever reps may argue otherwise).
Take what you read from "offical" sources with a grain of salt, though in this case, it's actually accurate.
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time frame is about a year back, before talks of 4.5 and the inline mms vid ability it brought, when the Curve first dropped.
question ... if tmo gets the bold, whats the use in releasing the javelin ???
i am thinking, although i regret saying, that tmo wont get bold OR thunder ...
but that doesnt mean you CANT get it. i am planning on buying a bold, having it unlocked and viola! bold for tmo. i am ALL about the new/unique, no matter how i may get it. i am having trouble with the thunder though ... cause if i am correct/if i can remember correctly, verizon donesnt unlock phones .. its againts their devilish policy lol jk.
i am thinking, although i regret saying, that tmo wont get bold OR thunder ...
but that doesnt mean you CANT get it. i am planning on buying a bold, having it unlocked and viola! bold for tmo. i am ALL about the new/unique, no matter how i may get it. i am having trouble with the thunder though ... cause if i am correct/if i can remember correctly, verizon donesnt unlock phones .. its againts their devilish policy lol jk.