Nirvana

I can definitaly call my favorite band overated. So many people praise them to much for things in my opinion don't deserve as much credit as other things they did.
 
Totally agreed. I felt that Zeitgeist sat very well in their catalog. Unfortunately now that Jimmy's left the band they've lost a key element to the sound so we'll have to see what happens. I was definitely one of the fans that was totally behind the Pumpkins name being revived despite it only being Billy and Jimmy, because Billy pretty much recorded all the guitar and bass himself on most of the best stuff. But Jimmy's drum style was such a signature thing - I can't say I'm not a little worried the next stuff won't live up to the catalog.
 
Heres hoping Jimmy returns, but it's looking pretty unlikely. I wouldn't even mind another Adore-type drum machine album.





Wow really? My you guys just listed my favorite tracks from that album...
 
Thanks guys I understand now, I think differently about Kurt Cobain than some of you (with him being my idol, minus some of the things he did.) and feel I have good reasons to back it up, but I don't want this to turn into one of those jaded Nirvana arguments I've read/been in time and time again.
 
Adore is the one Pumpkins album I just don't really like at all. It's got some good songs, but I'm never in the mood for it and it just lags behind the rest of the catalog.




Seriously. Incesticide is awesome and some of their Bleach-era demos are even better. I don't get all the negative comments - and "Aero Zeppelin" and "Mexican Seafood" are two of my favorites on the record too.
 
that does look about right. he was always a little thin up top and a little thicker in the middle than the other guys in the band. or did you really expect someone in their mid-40s to keep looking like they did when they were in their late 20s? do you still dress and act the same as when you were 12?

the political angle isn't really surprising either, more and more musicians became politically active in the 80s and 90s when the governments of the day started trying to impose stricter controls on the content of music being released to the public.
 
I think his death was just a kinky accident.

Like the asphyxiate wank, he tried having a shot gun shoved in every orphis in his body.

He was going for the nose and he was so heroined up he accidently pushed the trig.. yeah I'm talking shit.

I think the man was a genius although I believe if he didn't die after the second album and Nirvana carried on to write lots more music, I don't believe they'd be rated as highly as they are now.
 
yep probs..... hahah just thinking about him makes me laugh coz he didnt give a crap about anyone and he was like yeah screw you man makes me LaughMyAssOff
 
Most of my favourite banRAB are hated on this forum. I don't care; I like banRAB because their music appeals to me in some way. I don't base my love or hate for a band on its following, or annoying fans, or hipster cred. Oh and I really love Nirvana.
 
To me, if a song is disposable, it was never really good in the first place.

I used to listen to Limp Bizkit, I now acknowledge that their music sucks.

I used to be heavy into Nirvana, but while I don't really listen to them anymore, I still consider them a great band and I can still enjoy their music when I listen to it.
 
Kurt?

He didn't give a crap about anyone?

He was forced to go to drug rehab, if he didn't, he'd lose his daughter. He cared about her..
 
they werent emos, they were just playing music that they liked. Kurt never expected them to become famous and he never expected that people would ever want to listen to his music. I think he preferred it when people DIDNT listen to his music actually...
 
Nirvana was unhappy with Sub Pop at the time and was looking for a record label that gave them more freedom. At the time Nirvana and Sonic Youth were very good frienRAB and Sonic Youth recommended DGC.
Nirvana had two options at the timne; SIgn the contract were they where guarenteed 750 thousand dollars but have limitations or sign the contract which let them have more freedom but they would get a percent of how many copies of Nevermind were sold and have few limitations.
In other worRAB, sign the contract to get guarenteed money and have less freedom and no risk, or take the risk of not getting 750 thousand but have freedom to do what they want.
Krist said it himself they didn't want the money they just wanted to put a record out and make a difference. Nirvana didn't go to the mainstream, the mainstream came to them. After all the unwanted publicity Cobain received he said he wanted to go back to writing songs on an eight track but the only thing keeping him from doing it was if he left the spotlight he didn't know if he would ever be able to get back.
 
i'm not trying to discredit him or the band. just pointing out that they weren't the idealistic pariahs so many people want to try to see them as. he wanted his cake and to be able to eat it to. you can't have successful obscurity, you don't retain obscurity by playing label showcases.

they didn't go to the mainstream because they WERE the mainstream. they WERE the disenfranchised youth of the late 80s that hated the garbage being pandered to the masses as 'great new music'. they were the ones who recognized the attitude and decadence of the glam and hair music that dominated so much of the 80s was crap. they were the ones who grew up on the wrong side of the tracks, in broken homes, with minimal money who saw the realities of the tanking economy of the late 80s and hated the poofy haired facade mainstream america was trying to uphold.

cobain made it absolutely clear when he screamed "here WE are now, entertain US!" that they (and their peers) were in fact the mainstream. whether or not the mainstream wanted to recognize the transition was another matter entirely. my generation did not give them a choice. it was our turn, and we took it.
 
Nirvana is my favorite band, they just erabody so many great banRAB of the late 80's and early 90's into one great package. One thing that gets me about this forum in particular is the lack of respect for the group, being overrated and being overexposed are two different things. If you are sick of hearing SLTP on the radio 15 years after the group disbanded than does that make them 'overrated?'

I've learned that things as critically acclaimed and commercially popular as Nirvana tend to take alot of heat. But step back and think about why it is so acclaimed.
 
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