New Wolverine film leaked online

It was probably released by a games developer. I've seen a full version of Toy Story that was supplied to Sony on VHS many months before the film came out so that the developers could get ideas for designing levels for the game. The film had the complete audio, but was full of wire-frames, time-code, and low rez rendered animations / partial animations.
 
I was really surprised out of all films this one got leaked online. I would have thought most fans of the series may well have been those who downloaded it, just for the thrill of seeing it early, but those are also the people who pay to see the movies 3 or 4 times at the cinema...Why? Because they're fans and its a film where you WANT the special effects, you WANT the ear blowing surround soundtrack, and to see it on a massive screen... so why bother with a naff unfinished copy? I for one am waiting and looking forward to a summer of nights at the cinema, there's Wolverine, Star Trek and loaRAB of other good films on.. I'll wait for the cinema thanks! And as for good quality movies at home... I'll wait for the Blu Ray! And at the size the files would be to download Bluray... who would bother????
 
My thoughts exactly. It's a fascinating insight into how the CGI process works and how the effects shots start off as every now and again but by the end it turns into one big CGI-fest. As a result I'm dying to see the film at the cinema to see what it looks like. I also loved seeing the wire work, very old-school. :D
 
Why do RAB say, in all their stories about this leak, that the fillm was "detected and removed" from file sharing websites after 100,000 people downloaded it? Do they not realise that there simply is no removing it now that it's out there?
 
I also agree, it was fascinating on how the stunts were put together, wire, cgi and others.

The last big fight scene was amazing how it was put together through CGI, a good insight on how films are made.

Looking foward to see how the last scene will finally look.

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same with me, i saw it last night, although i didnt download it. I will definately still be gong to watch it at the cinema. i want to see how the film enRAB up looking
 
you people illegally downloading wolverine should feel ashamed of yourselves.

people who do it claiming they are film fans are talking rubbish. its all about watching it for free from a copy in a manner not intended by the film makers

they are the opposite of film fans - what they are doing is damaging the film industry
 
Yeah, the movie/music industry loves claiming every download is a lost sale.

A lot of people i know who do download stuff have said theyre waiting for the cinema release to see it in all its glory. I think a lot of people feel like that and only dl stuff they wouldnt buy ever. Similarly to people waiting until movies are on Sky rather than buying the DVD.
 
The film companies made the same arguements when TV was introduced. They predicted the death of the local movie theatre. Same thing with the introduction of the VCR.

Yes, there were casualties, but the industry as a whole flourished (and continues to flourish). They were forced to innovate to compete with TV viewing. I see no reason why they can't meet the latest technological challenge with something new to keep the customers coming back.
 
I have to agree with the idea that downloading of films won't kill off cinema. Anyone who has seen any of these shaky-cam pirate copies knows that 99% of them look dreadful and any real film fan will enjoy going to see films in all their glory on the big screen.

The uploading of screeners (dvd quality copies sent out to academy award nominees, for example) is more of a problem but Hollywood can easily stop this occuring by not sending them out and making academy voters attend screenings. Of course, they won't do this as the potential box office from an Oscar win dwarfs the amount lost from a few thousand people watching illegal copies.

Wolverine is a special case in that it is a work in progress. The problem is not only that it managed to get out there but also that as a fanboy-type film, the reaction of those who don't like it has been very over-the-top.

In the end, the kind of people who have downloaded it now are the type who would have downloaded it anyway, so the damage to the box office from them is probably quite minor.

The negative publicity can't help it but I'm with those who found it very interesting (particularly the final battle in its unfinished state) and will go and see how it turns out when completed.

Maybe Fox can turn this around by making the workprint a special feature on the DVD:D
 
No, you have no right to view something without the copyright holder's permission. They dont want it out there, it shouldn't be, so downlaoding and watching it is not only illegal, it's immoral. There's no debate about it, it's plain wrong.

You can all pretend you're real fans all you like, you're not, because you are going against the wishes of the people who have created what you claim you like.

It's simple nosiness, one more consequence of the google generation.
 
It's illegal alright (immoral is more down to opinion I guess) but I was responding to the statement that people watching it were "damaging the movie industry". If someone was never going to pay in the first place, downloading it now hasn't made a bit of difference to the industry.
I haven't downloaded the movie*, so don't be so quick to jump to conclusions and judge people. Besides, it's entirely possible for someone to be a fan of a film/show without having paid to see it. You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

(*because I knew how shit it would be pretty much as soon as it was announced, not for any moral/legal reasons)

It was leaked April 1st (lots of people thought it was some sort of April Fools on the piracy scene), so if your friend said they got it 3 weeks ago they're telling porkies.
 
Hugh Jackman: 'Its a serious crime!....'

Erm no, its not.

Murder and rape are serious crimes, not one pirated film. Get a sense of perspective, you silly actor.
 
JonJonB said:
It's illegal alright (immoral is more down to opinion I guess) but I was responding to the statement that people watching it were "damaging the movie industry". If someone was never going to pay in the first place, downloading it now hasn't made a bit of difference to the industry.
I haven't downloaded the movie*, so don't be so quick to jump to conclusions and judge people. Besides, it's entirely possible for someone to be a fan of a film/show without having paid to see it. You don't seem to know what you're talking about.

(*because I knew how shit it would be pretty much as soon as it was announced, not for any moral/legal reasons)

My mate got it about 3 weeks ago.A lot of the special effects are missing though.

Well I just texted him and he's sticking by his claim.Off a private tracker 2nd week of March.I agree with your statement about lost revenue and not really losing a sale.Their figures are so flawed that the money they say they're losing can't be anywhere near the actual amount.
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Sometimes the actions of the copyright holder are stupid, too. Case in point would be the film Plane Dead/Flight of the Living Dead. Brilliant zombie film that I downloaded and would have loved to have seen at the cinema. I'm sure it could have been the sleeper Summer hit of 2007 (an opinion shared by a few people I've watched it with) but the film company/distributor thought differently, and it never even got a general UK cinema release.



Real film fans would, of course, be aware that the Hollywood movie industry was BUILT on piracy in the early 20th Century. (hint: google edison fox mpcc)

Hollywood box-office takings continue to break recorRAB (last year it stood at $13.59 billion) - so ultimately, i'm sure they can live with the "immorality" of their unlicensed consumers as long as the money keeps rolling in.
 
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