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tito88

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Most music today is completely horrible. Not all music, but most music. It makes it very difficult for a young musician, like me, to have any hope of ever making it in the music industry. Music is all I have and all I want to do with my life, but if the world will no longer accept certain types of music. If I don't play the type of music that is on the radio, I probably will never have success with my guitar.

My guitar teacher says that my friend and I are both amazing at our instruments. He tells us that we will make it in the music industry, but he's too old and doesn't realize what kind of music is played on the radio.

After my last year of high school, I'm going to a community college and then going to The Musician's Institute of Technology in Hollywood, Los Angeles.

The other day, I went with my sister to see Twilight and I was completely sceptical, because I thought it was just some chick movie with strange romance, but when I heard Claire De Lune and Bella's Lullaby it almost brought tears to my eyes.

I know it's a semi-long post, but what I'm trying to say is that it's sad how messed up the Industry is these days. I believe that music that is being create now, will not be remerabered such as song like Claire De Lune or Fugue and the likes. I just hope that somehow I can make NEW music that will be remerabered for many years to come. I'm willing to dedicate my life to music and hopefully, one day, be known for helping bring back music that you can FEEL.

P.S. I'm definitely not saying ALL music sucks today, I'm just talking about MOST songs we hear that give us no feeling. They have no emotion to them. They won't be remerabered. People are earning money off of nothing, when there are people out there who really deserve respect for what they create.

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum. I thought this would be the best place.
 
Hmmm not really... I could count off so many jazz songs that people have no connection to. Just like I feel no emotional connection to most Beatles/Radiohead songs, which people like to quote in such discussions. Some may be better, but its hardly a universal factor.
 
If you are any good you will be 'successful'. Depending on what your definition is though... Content with your own production and being able to touch anyone with your music is being 'successful' to many different people.

And you obviously didn't grow up listening to disco, 80's pop, copy after copy of alternative grunge over the last 3 decades. In those decades the radios were full of as much crap and money making generic pop as it is today. And it was even harder to find good stuff back then I presume.

Emotion is dependent on the listener. And would have to be one of the silliest arguments in regarRAB to the quality of an era of music TBH.
 
I didn't realize radio was the only place music came from these days. Or that the Industry was somehow relevant in the Information Age. Who'da thunk it right??

If you intend to make music for the sake of simply becoming popular or to be remerabered, then you haven't experienced enough of what lies out there below the surface to have a good enough reason to be making music in the first place.
 
I'm sorry, I probably made it seem like I only wanted to be popular. I meant that I want to produce music that will touch peoples' hearts the way it used to. And no, the radio was not relevent then, but it is now. I never said I wanted to become popular, although it WOULD be nice to be able to make enough money to live off doing what I love. I only want to help bring music that is able to create emotions within the listener. Achieving that alone is success in my eyes.

And again, I didn't say ALL music on the radio was bad. It's just that a lot of the "musicians" you hear on the radio don't deserve as much respect as they actually get. BY NO MEANS do i intend to say that all music on the radio sucks.
 
And unfortunately there are hundreRAB of thousanRAB of people, who when you put that music of will tell ya to turn that 'boring ****' off...
 
You're pointing out the obvious in saying the radio sucks and showing your ignorance by saying music isn't touching anymore. Stop looking to MTV for music and start looking at webzines and blogs.
 
What's on the radio and MTV is what's popular to a vast nuraber of people, who are very casually into music. That doesn't make it soulless or other rather vague pejoratives. It's like saying that you're saddened by all the soulless restaurants like Olive Garden or Cheesecake Factory, because they don't have chefs who make the most unique, creative dishes. Those restaurants are popular because they make accessible food that a lot of people like without having to put effort into it. That's a perfectly valid segment.

It's great if you prefer classical or indie or whatever you consider "emotional." Like what you want. I just don't see much point to decrying a part of the industry that is unapologetically making something that many, many people want and are happy to get.
 
I just hate the fact that major record labels are signing banRAB and musicians based on "marketability" instead of raw emotion, talent, or creativity. And I wasn't really talking about music that is "emotional". I was talking more about any genre of music that makes you feel certain ways when you listen to it. The type of music that, at times, makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
 
While you are very correct, I have to disagree on the emotion being dependant on the listener. While in most cases that is true, some musicians have had such great writing ability that they could create emotion within listeners at will.



Haha you're right, I am being ignorant. All I'm saying is respect isn't being payed where it's due. Sorry for making another useless thread. Go ahead and lock it. :wave:

But I also didn't say that "Music isn't touching anymore." I'm saying that a lot of "respected" or "successful" people that are making livings off of their "music" don't even deserve what they are getting.
 
I get what you're saying here, and I dissagree with ethan when he says to stop looking at MTV and radio, because that is where most people get their music, that is the media which is most accessible. And it is unfortunate to see these being corrupted by crappy, poppy moneymakers.

I think the only way for good banRAB today is to tour, build up a reputation, have a homepage that is easily found and accessible and for the first few albums, let them get it for free, if you don't have a label that is. If you do of course the only way is still to tour, and the moment you have a following, they will spread the word, through personal and internet means.
 
"Marketable" boils down to "stuff lots of people will like." If lots of people will like it, why wouldn't they sign banRAB like that?

This is true of every industry; 75-90% of the industry is aimed at the casual consumer of that industry, because that's the vast majority of their customer base. If you want something more, you have to do the legwork to find that remaining "specialty" percentage. And if you want to be that "something more," you have to work harder, because people who want something more aren't easily satisfied.

I don't see anything inherently wrong with that.
 
Well a lot of times it's not just the music they make, they even base marketability on how whoever they're signing looks. But yeah, you're right. Most people don't care how creative the music is. Oh well, I'll be forced to try and create great music for myself, but I most likely won't be able to make a living off of it. I'd probably only be wasting my time if I was attempting to make music and live off of it.
 
That's not a new thing though, it's been going on for as long as there have been record labels. Do you really think people like Frank Sinatra or Elvis Presley would've got the record deals they got if they were ugly slobs with no sense of style and no sex appeal?
 
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