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Hello all. Have been reading this forum for about 6 months now. My husband was injured at work 6 months ago. Unfortunately, we are now dealing with workers comp. We are at the point now where we are looking to get a second opinion on our own because we feel like he is just being strung along by the doctor. He is currently with an ortho doc and pain management doc within the same group. Here is what his mri shows.

L1-L2 - there is a minimal disc bulge, no significant central canal narrowing.

L2-L3 - there is a disc bulge and small right paracentral disc extrusion extending superiorly for 3mm. There is mild bilateral facet hypertrophy with mild canal narrowing but no significant neural foraminal narrowing,'

L3-L4 - there is a mild disc bulge and left foraminal broad-based disc protrusion. There is bilateral facet hypertrophy with minimal central canal narrowing. There is mild to moderate left but no significant right neural foraminal narrowing.

L4-L5 - there is a mild diffuse disc bulge. There is a tiny right paracentral disc protrusion. There is a left foraminal broad-based disc protrusion with annular tear. There is mild central canal narrowing. There is moderate left and mild right neural foraminal narrowing.

L5-S1 - there is a mild disc bulge. There is a tiny left paracentral disc protrusion and annular tear. There is bilateral facet hypertrophy with minimal central canal narrowing but no significant neural foraminal narrowing.

He has had three sets of steriod shots. Unfortunately the first two did not work and he only got relief for a few days. One was a caudal and the other was a transforaminal. We found out that the emg was done wrong by the first neurologist. His pain dr did the second emg. He definitely has nerve damage and based on the emg was better able to pinpoint where the third shot should be placed. The third was intralaminar. If his pain gets worse they will try doing the facet joints. They will only give so much steriod in a year and he is just about at the max now. His back has felt better for a month now, but it is slowly going back to what it was. He did rounRAB of pt which only made his back feel worse. They had him stop that. They now want him to do aqua therapy and acupuncture. Originally he was only allowed to lift 10 pounRAB. They have put him back on full lifting, no restrictions. As long as his back feels pretty good, because of the steroiRAB, we keep wondering if this will make matters worse in the long run. This does not make sense to us because all they have done was to alleviate the pain problem but have done nothing to fix the underlying problems. They just keep saying come back in three weeks for a check. They don't feel he neeRAB surgery at this time. We feel we need to get a second opinion on our own.

Any advice would be appreciated. We feel like we are running into the brick wall.

Thanks and sorry for the long post.
 
First of all due to the injuries he should have a lawyer, any time there's permanent damage like nerve problems or with the spine, it's best to have a lawyer involved, depending on the doctors he's seeing and if things are delayed with payments or problems with the employer.

He has alot of bulges, that sometimes over the years can reabsorb in the body, but if he has a strenous job, it will not help at all, with nerve damage, over time it just gets worse, or permanent as the discs are pushing against the nerves.

He could get a laminectomy, to open the spinal canal more, but considering he's got so many bulges, I am unsure the outcome, especially if a manual labor job.
I know not much help, but with bulges, most are treated conservatively for 12 weeks, and if the pain is still unbearable, surgery is an option depening on his symptoms.

You can request a change of doctors, once you start paying out of pocket, even if the dr you pay says to do something, workmens comp will disregard the outside drs opinion, so it's best to request a change of doctors honestly and work within the workmens comp system.
 
I agree with the other poster work within the workmanscomp system. I know the laws are different in different states and California is really unsupportive of the worker, but even here we have doctors who accept w/c.
I was injured at work also, no doubt it was work-related as the other employee responsible fessed up. However, it took 10 months to get my torn ligament, tendon and cartlidge repair surgery for my wrist approved, after I went through PT and thought I was going to faint from pain. I had herniated discs at L3-L4-L5 and stenosis. I too had an epidural shot. W/C turned down the request for two more shots, stating I needed to look into chronic pain management. (ah isn't that what epidurals are for?) I went through torturing physical therapy. I requested and switched to a different doctor. The second dr gave me pills and then sent me to a surgeon for evaluation. I was able to pick out who I wanted to go see. He said I needed surgery. W/C sent a letter to my hand surgeon asking his opinion on whether I needed back surgery or not. He responded it was not his area of expertise. It was just a delay tactic. I was approved for surgery but it took a long time as I was approved twice for the wrong surgeons. In total it took 3 years before I finally got my surgery. I used up all my w/c, my sick and vacation time and was left without an income so I retired. I am still awaiting another wrist surgery.
Oh and I have an attorney, but the law changes has affected his motiviation and income.
I turned down a fusion and had a laminectomy and disectomy. I am glad I had the surgery and certainly wish I hadn't been jerked around for so long. I knew the therapy was aggravating my back. After surgery, it was appreciated. Good luck. Take a deep breath and keep fighting.
 
Run to a Workcomp Attorney's office!!!! I've been dealing with workcomp for the past several years and let me tell you they are the most "special people" you'll ever deal with! Be prepared for the long haul.
 
As long as you are considering more injections, Prolotherapy helped me ...greatly, and you're not pumping steroiRAB into the body.
 
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