Need help getting off Suboxone

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Sverge.......You are doing sooooo well. You can keep this up, you are almost at the end and there is a light at the end of the tunnel for you. Can you imagine if you just take another piece now that your body might have to start all over again with your withdrawls when you are almost finished. I know you did it before but....I wouldn't do it again!!!!! Talk to your doc about taken a few (not at once) valium or Lorezepam. They are both addictable but maybe one to get some sleep not suboxone!!!!

Please keep up the good work at the gym, you did great. It takes probably 3-4 weeks (at least it did me and other people on these boarRAB) to get through it and still there are better days than others for us all. I am going to be "harsh" and again it is "TOUCH LOVE".....but in my opinion I think you should throw out that pill that is in your car and any others in the house "ANGEL'S ORDERS"!!!!

Please don't anyone get upset with me. This is what we were told in the addiction centre and it makes sense to me, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND!!!!
Please don't hate me everyone!!!!

Sverge....you are doing great, you can do this, please keep on going, you are almost there. Tomorrow will be another day and it will be a good one.

Take care
Hugs
Lyn :angel:
 
I have been on Suboxone for 6 and 1/2 YEARS!!!!!! My last dose of 1mg was March 2nd, and even today the 26th I STILL feel like hell!!!! Me personally I would NEVER EVER recommend suboxone to anyone! It is hell to get off!! PURE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought with withdrawls would be a week or so...WRONG!!!! I am almost a month with none and been to the ER 7 dam times!!!! All these detox centers i called dont deal with suboxone withdrawls so I am alone at home, no energy to even wash my own hair! This is by far the hardest thing I have ever in my life had to do! I HATE suboxone! I did vicodin for 10 years and suboxone for almost 7 years! I heard of people going threw w/d for 40 days when they were only on suboxone for 6 monhts so I cant imagine how much longer I can take these w/d symptoms! Ask me what ever you want and I will try and be of help! it has been 25 days for me and I am still going through hell every day...skin crawls, body aches the runs...lost 40 pounRAB...its pure HELL!!!!
 
Hey All.

I've been on Suboxone for almost a year now. And 3 days ago, I just decided to stop. I was not feeling good about myself. Kind of shameful that I was using drugs I really didn't need.

And boy was that a bad move. This is the 4Th day without sub's and I feel Horrible.
Anxiety attacks, insomnia, lack of motivation, sweating, yawning.. and my life is busy as hell, work from 9 AM - 8 PM. I am a general manager for a design center so as you can imagine, i deal with ALOT of people everyday.

The point is, I have no one to talk to, because I am so erabarrassed. I am ashamed of myself for letting myself down to this shit hole. I'm trying so hard to deal with this but it's getting to the point where my girlfriend is getting struck by my lack of enthusiasm. And she doesn't even know what's going on, and as i said, I'm not man enough to tell her what I've become.

I really need someone to talk to about this, I don't believe in doctors and shrinks, they're in it for the money. The only people that can help me are the ones who are/have been in the same situation

So If anyone feels like I do, let me know, maybe we can go through this together.


Thanks for listening.

Arman
 
Hi Arman,
Hope you're still hanging in there... I know the feeling. There was a long period of time in which I couldn't talk to anyone.. too ashamed to even talk to my best friend.. and he knew I had a problem. But in the end, I learned how many amazing frienRAB, family, and complete strangers were there to support, help, and love me no matter what I had become. That really helped shape my perception in an amazing way.. They say if you see the glass as half full you're an optimist, half empty, a pessimist. But the glass is always full... just not always with liquid. The glass itself has no utility... it's the empty space within that gives it function. Maybe what you've been seeking all along is waiting for you to find it. It's always been there.. look for it and you will not see. Try to grasp it, and it will run through your fingers like grains of sand. The answers are usually right in front of you... sometimes you just need a friend to wipe the dust off your lens. Remeraber, all there ever is, is now. No past, no future, linear time is an illusion, and a societal construct of control. All you ever have is now. Ask yourself... what time is it? Now. If there is anything I can do.. let me know..
 
Hey!!!

I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!! I think it's GREAT you are doing so well!!!!! This has been a tough road for you so far and there will be more to come but I am so proud of you!!!!

Thank you for saying what you did! It was very sweet and it meant a lot to me. I am glad we were able to have helped you!!!! That is what is so great about this board.. One moment you are helping someone and in the next.. they return the favor.

You have helped me.... By sharing your story.... it made me remeraber how terrible those w/d were and that helped a lot when I was craving because I could read what you and others were going thru and it made me think... "SEE... That is why you don't want to use" I am almost 100 days pill free.. I can't blow this now... Just one of the many reasons to not take any pills.. So thank you for sharing and I can tell you.. by you sharing you have helped others too.. I promise you that. There are many lurkers and you will probably never know the ways you have helped them but I am pretty certain you have.

I hope this keeps getting better and better for you!!!! Be proud!!!!
~Secrets
 
wondering how ur doing now i wish i was in your shoes right now, time wise im just about to begin getting off subox anything would help let me know if your still kicking see ya thanks
 
shayeagle, I have thought about talking to her, but I don't know. I think it's best if I do this on my own. Don't know how to explain it.

I need to do this, I have been through hell and back in my life, and I always managed to stand tall.

This time is no different, I will complete the withdrawal period, and once I start to feel normal again, I will share my experience with her.

I do not think you should go back on the sub shayeagle, I really don't. The drug is controlling you, It's all in your head, i believe that if you fight the craving, the pain will go away.

Best of luck to you shayeagle, no matter what path you choose, I hope it will give you a life you truly will love.
 
Day Seven:

3:rd sleepless night. And once again I'm sitting in my office and posting.

For some reason I always wake up around 3.00 A.M and stay awake.
I do not want to take ANY sort of sleeping pill, there is no point in stop taking one pill and starting with another. A'la Natural.

I just hope this goes away soon because the sleepless nights are starting to wear me out.

And don't get me started on the restless legs.

T-minus - 10 hours and 51 minutes to go.
 
Hey Sverige82, no sense in feeling bad about taking the sub to get some relief. it's done and you got some well deserved and needed sleep. Now you have to decide what you are going to do as far as getting off the sub completely. the problem with taking a little here and there, it's going to set you back a few days. i don't know how true this is but i heard that if you were addicted to a drug, you only have to take it a couple of times and your body goes back to being dependant. then you have to start all over with the withdrawals. tomorrow is 4 weeks i've been off the sub. it was a rough road, but well worth it. i am feeling more and more myself each day, getting more energy and thinking clear. don't feel guilty, just stay strong, one day at a time, you WILL be clean and happy one day soon!! amed
 
Hey!!!

Good to hear from you!

Anticipation of it all is very very scary and I think then in turn it gives a person anxiety!!!! Which mind you sucks too.

Set backs are set backs and we just need to move past them when they happen. NONE of us are perfect and could never in a million years claim to be. You are a good person and have A LOT to be proud of. You have come so far and have been a GREAT example for MANY people reading these posts. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that are just lurking that you have probably impacted let alone the rest of us.....

Thank you for sharing your experiences. Keep doing what you are doing and I know you have the strength to face this and win. I believe in you!

I hope your day goes great!!!
 
One other thing, if for some reason you take Sub again do not beat yourself up. I have been tapering and I have to say it is not bad at all. I am ready to jump off and I went from 8mg to almost nothing and it didn't even take that long, just a few days. The way you do it is you take one tiny piece in the morning and then tiny tiny pieces throughout the day and this tricks your mind and I literally have not had any WD's. I really do encourage you to keep up the fight and don't give in, but if you do, don't let it get you down and stay strong. I went from one 8mg pill a day and now that pill lasts for over a week or more. Stay strong and pray. If you are religous spend time in prayer and if not then just meditate by closing your eyes and think of something beautiful and focus on it. You will get through this if you choose to. If you take the Sub again, then resolve to yourself that you are going to get on a regimented taper program and stick with it. But at 7 days you don't need to do that. Stay strong and hustle. I will pray for you.

Ryan
 
Sverige82....I just read your post and there has got to be a better way of going about it than taking a piece of a suboxone. I am not judging you because it is the most difficult thing that you probably have gone through in your life (I know it was for me and others on these boarRAB). You probably have read my story (several times) and I have just been through it and the sleep deprivation is the absolute worst. It has been 6 weeks for me and I take Arabien and I am just starting to get 5 hrs of sleep if I am lucky!!!! I was in terrible shape shaking and anxious and couldn't think straight, restless legs, the exact same as you. My husband to me to my family doc and he was worried as my blood pressure was up and my heart rate was also. He told me to take Valium or Ativan (Lorezepam) just to settle me down as he was worried but.....told me both were addictive if taken for too long but he thought I need a few. He wrote me out a script for the Lorezepam and I only took it when I was absolutely desperate, like you took the sub crurab. I was worried about taking the Lorezepam as I had read on these boarRAB about people that were addicted to that. I probably took 10 of them in three weeks and the doc prescribed a lot more. He said I could take two a day as needed. I was fine, I didn't get addicted to it because I didn't take enough. It did settle me down a bit and helped me to sleep, but I only took when I was desperate. This is only my opinion and I don't want you (or anyone) to get mad at me for saying this but.......that little crurab you took yesterday is what I was on for two weeks to keep me feeling normal and that was my last taper, actually I took less for 2 weeks than you took yesterday. You took 1/4 of one and I was on probably 1/2 of 1/8th which was almost a dot. This sub is very strong and "controlling"!!!! Please don't get upset at me but I worry about you taking that 1/4 of a sub. I was on 2mg. I can't remeraber the strength of your last pill you are using to taper?

I hope I am not out of line. That is what these boarRAB are for and I hope you forgive me because I am not trying to be negative. I want to help you get through your withdrawl. I would suggest that you talk to your doctor and see if there is something better to take than a crurab of sub to get off of the suboxone. Make sure you talk to the doc because you want to make sure that it mixes with any other meRAB you might be on for pain. I know Denon just went through all of the same (only off of oxy) and that is what he did also, he took valium to help him sleep. I don't think he is taking that now either, he is "drug free". You can post to him and talk to him also.

Take care of yourself and I am here for you and I know it is very easy to relapse but....I don't want you to do that after how far you have come.

I am thinking about you

Lyn
 
Hey!

Sometimes it's good to just post your thoughts and I am glad you did! It helps.. I swear it does!!!

It sounRAB like right now you are in a bad spot.. The w/d are completely overwhelming and I remeraber how bad it feels!! You are not weak.. If you were.. You would not be doing what you are doing! That is a fact!

Those restless crawly legs.... THEY ARE THE WORST!! That along and the panic attack you feel you are having all the time were the worst for me.. What I did was take SUPER hot baths.. The sauna will be great for you... Maybe you could also soak in the hot tub too.. I would have killed for a hot tub when I was in w/d... It was the only thing that would have calmed me down was hot water!!!!

Hang in there and keep posting.... Talk thru it.... This CAN'T and WON'T last forever even though I know each minute feels like an hour. I am praying for your relief!!!!!

Keep us posted!!!!!
~Secrets
 
Hi Secrets!!

Believe it or not, I'm actually doing pretty good! A few yawnings and shivers here and there but that's about it!

I actually feel good!
 
Hey friend,

It sounRAB like you are in a BAD place right now! I am really sorry to hear you are feeling so low right now.

I know how it seems like it would fix a lot of things for you right now if you started taking the sub again but I promise you it won't. Things in my personal life have been not good as of late and it's been VERY tempting to think that if I just took a couple pills I would have a couple hours of good feelings but I know that would just make things worse.... I know you have A LOT going on right now and I am sorry it seems like everything is falling apart at the same time but you CAN make it thru these issue's with out going back on the sub. You are a STRONG man. I know sometimes we all feel defeated and want to give up but that is why we have this support group here... To help hold each other up when we can't do it alone.

We are here for you and we really would appreciate another update. We are all very worried friend...... let us know how you are holding up! THINKING OF YOU!!!!!

Sending you a warm hug......
XOXOXOX
 
hey-

you are strong and that is very very admirable. i have a question though-
i was on suboxen after detoxing from 11 and half years of methadone and even though i was only on it for a month...i didnt have the symptoms you did. do you know why that is?
 
Day 8.

4:th night I haven't been able to sleep, it's starting to wear me out, i only get 1-2 hours of sleep every night, work 12 hours and go back home, it's really killing me.

On a side not, the WD's are almost gone, I'm starting to feel normal for each day, it's just the damn restless leg crap that is tearing me apart.

I tried hot showers, I tried vitamins and what not, I tried it all, still nothing.

Anyone know how long this crap is going take?

AND HAPPY VALENTINES DAY ALL!!!!


T-minus 10 hours 27 min until I get off work
 
Thanks for the advice. I am tapering and stopping smoking cigarettes at the same time. I am going to hit the gym tonight and hit it hard. I feel terrible right now aned have been just lounging and it is starting to really make my wife mad. I am going to hit the gym. I am down to tiny bits of Sub and am just about ready to jump off. I am disgusted that I ever got hooked to vicodin in the first place and this has been going on for 4 years now. I have not taken Vicodin in 3 years but I ended up switching from one addiction to another and I am disgusted with who I am. Everyone thinks I am a great guy and aside from my spouse nobody knows that I am nothing more then a dirtbag drug addict. Subutex is a drug and although I am happy I am not taking the vikes anymore I am still a friggin drug addict, something I swore would never happen to me. I don't agree that addiction is a disease, at least not for me, I chose to get strung out on Vicodin and that was my choice, nobody forced me to do it.

Now I get to know for the rest of my life that I was a drug addict. No better then a heroin addict or crack addict. I am a stinkin drug addict.

Good luck and keep up the good work.

Ryan
 
Day Six:

Today is actually not so bad, I didn't get much sleep as usual, haven't eaten anything solid for a few days, but I actually feel alright.
Might be because I stuffed myself with all kinRAB of fruits and vitamins last night. Or maybe i'm just running on my last tank of adrenaline.

I think the worst is behind me, i'm not as cold, not as..jittery..however, that restless leg crap is still there, and that's one thing i just cant deal with.

Anyways, i'ts 9.38, sitting in my office as usual and counting down until I can go home.

T-Minus 10 Hrs. 21 min.
 
hey there, angel is right if you keep taking even just a little you are sending yourself back into withdrawals. if you can get something to sleep, i take xanex, that might help you. i don't feel like xanax is a problem for me because i don't really like it, never take it to get high, only to go to sleep. not the same with hydrocodone which i would LOVE to be able to take but know i would be starting all over again. once you get passed a week or two you will feel much better. i am fighting the cravings right now, yesterday was a bad day, i would have loved to take a few pills and it would of turned my day into something wonderful. but of course not for long and i held off and here it is today and i am still clean. so hang in there, you can beat this thing. the gym is a great idea, i worked out like a mad woman last night, it sure made me feel LOTS better. stay strong, the days will get better, i promise!! peace, amed
 
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