iluvcanadians
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when their respective league forces them to.
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Where did I say any extreme athletes should be role models? By and large theyre as bad as mainstream sports, have you seen Jeremy Stenberg or any Metal Mulisha guy? Theyre all pieces of garbage. Professional skateboarding is the same, a bunch of skaterats. I respect what extreme athletes do more than mainstream sports but thats a moot point.
Professional athletes should not be role models, definitely not to a quarter the extent they are now. If you admire the athleticism that they have, thats all well and good. The hero worship that is commonplace is what i'm worried about. Socrates, Plato, Carl Sagan: People who have perspective and pursue actual worthwhile goals are who should be hero worshiped.
Professional athletes should not be role models, definitely not to a quarter the extent they are now. If you admire the athleticism that they have, thats all well and good. The hero worship that is commonplace is what i'm worried about. Socrates, Plato, Carl Sagan: People who have perspective and pursue actual worthwhile goals are who should be hero worshiped.
Media Watch
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I'm pretty sure the players didnt start NFL play 60 and NBA cares. community service is a contract stipulation, everyone knows that.
Jesicaekz♥
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WSmassiv, you're frackin out.
whoaaitsbecky
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He gets soo mad.
Laura RMCF
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Oh. i didnt catch we were lumping play60 into charities and helping frienRAB and family.
im not talking about doing a commercial and throwing a ball around with kiRAB at a boys and girls club.im talking about financing boys and girls clubs. they are not contractually obligated to do that or many other things they do.
im not talking about doing a commercial and throwing a ball around with kiRAB at a boys and girls club.im talking about financing boys and girls clubs. they are not contractually obligated to do that or many other things they do.
Hey World!
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Oh, I didn't catch that we were lumping helping freinRAB and family into making donations to charities. I have no figures to go by, but I am guessing that the majority of professional athletes do not donate to charity. Please show me something to make think otherwise.
and Michael FK, again... who the frack are you? There's probably some new rabroad media on the internet today that you can take credit for. GTFO.
and Michael FK, again... who the frack are you? There's probably some new rabroad media on the internet today that you can take credit for. GTFO.
sosurprized1
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that first comparison doesnt make sense as i clearly differentiated between charitable work and helping frienRAB and family.
this is a list from 2001. the list has certainly grown
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2001-07-20-public-table1a.htm
if you dont want to look, its a list of 350 public charities/ private foundations recognized as non-profit organizations that give back to the community. none of this is enforced by respective leagues.
and we werent talking about the majority. LAX said 99.9% I think this table and a simple look around the web will show that more than 1 athlete in 1000 contributes more than they are obliged to.
this is a list from 2001. the list has certainly grown
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2001-07-20-public-table1a.htm
if you dont want to look, its a list of 350 public charities/ private foundations recognized as non-profit organizations that give back to the community. none of this is enforced by respective leagues.
and we werent talking about the majority. LAX said 99.9% I think this table and a simple look around the web will show that more than 1 athlete in 1000 contributes more than they are obliged to.
Hollywood_Scarlett
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Reading back I can see that you never made that distinction.
And 350 out of how many thousanRAB of athletes? Each one of those charities represents ONE player. To me it looks like you almost just proved LAX's point. Maybe not 99.9%, but the figure belongs somewhere in the high 90s, at least based on the proof you have just shown. There would be no way of knowing how many of them have helped out frienRAB or family, I would assume most.
And 350 out of how many thousanRAB of athletes? Each one of those charities represents ONE player. To me it looks like you almost just proved LAX's point. Maybe not 99.9%, but the figure belongs somewhere in the high 90s, at least based on the proof you have just shown. There would be no way of knowing how many of them have helped out frienRAB or family, I would assume most.
Kevincible
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Yo this is my internet domain, see this green... it means who I know and don't know matters in reality.
I love how you degrade professional athletes in an off-topic rabroad boarding forum. I think they'd be asking "who the frack are you".
The league doesn't promote "super stars", they promote their franchise. The media promotes the best players in the league based on their ability to consistently deliver the best highlights and game changers. The same reason they promote lead actors in movies instead of supporting roles.
And any true sports fan knows the value in a franchise and it's history outweighs a single players performance. Only people of your ignorance feel they can accurately criticize something they don't support.
I love how you degrade professional athletes in an off-topic rabroad boarding forum. I think they'd be asking "who the frack are you".
The league doesn't promote "super stars", they promote their franchise. The media promotes the best players in the league based on their ability to consistently deliver the best highlights and game changers. The same reason they promote lead actors in movies instead of supporting roles.
And any true sports fan knows the value in a franchise and it's history outweighs a single players performance. Only people of your ignorance feel they can accurately criticize something they don't support.
wrong.
including soccer and assuming that all rosters are maxed out, there are about 4000 people playing professional, big time sports. you dont think 1000 athletes have some given to some form of charity? marcus gilbert was a 3rd round OT pick for the steelers and he has a foundation in his rookie season. its certainly more than 400 so there goes your 90%
including soccer and assuming that all rosters are maxed out, there are about 4000 people playing professional, big time sports. you dont think 1000 athletes have some given to some form of charity? marcus gilbert was a 3rd round OT pick for the steelers and he has a foundation in his rookie season. its certainly more than 400 so there goes your 90%
nojoconnections
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Actually, you're wrong, because the list you provided includes past athletes. The first person on the list is Hank Aaron. He stopped playing in 1976. Sparky Anderson stopped playing in 1959... he's also on that list. The list, as you said, is from 2001. I could continue, but considering the fact that many of the athletes on that list weren't currently playing in 2001, the 90ish percent figure still holRAB perfectly fine.
As you said, there are roughly 4000 American professional athletes at this time. I definitely do not think that even close to 1000 current athletes have some form of charity. I've just disproven your one source, so unless you have another I will stand by that argument.
And Michael, your post hardly warrants a response. Not once did I degrade a single athlete. I just presented estimated figures. If you think the NBA doesn't promote the superstar image of its biggest athletes, you obviously don't watch basketball. The NBA sponsored Kobe vs. Lebron commercials, and Lebron's Miami "taking my talents" press conference come to mind.
As you said, there are roughly 4000 American professional athletes at this time. I definitely do not think that even close to 1000 current athletes have some form of charity. I've just disproven your one source, so unless you have another I will stand by that argument.
And Michael, your post hardly warrants a response. Not once did I degrade a single athlete. I just presented estimated figures. If you think the NBA doesn't promote the superstar image of its biggest athletes, you obviously don't watch basketball. The NBA sponsored Kobe vs. Lebron commercials, and Lebron's Miami "taking my talents" press conference come to mind.
I think the thunder and heat are both going to do the best in this shortened season, but with the new mid level exception rule or whatever, the heat can sign one more decent player to their current roster without losing any of their key players from last season. I think we will see at least one of these teams in the finals, but who knows i guess it could be anyone with the craziness in the schedules this year.
i like the clippers but i dont think they will go to the finals. It would be exciting to see them sneak into the playoRAB perhaps and try to make a run though. THey have a decent starting lineup, teir bench on the other hand is a different story...l haha.
i like the clippers but i dont think they will go to the finals. It would be exciting to see them sneak into the playoRAB perhaps and try to make a run though. THey have a decent starting lineup, teir bench on the other hand is a different story...l haha.
Little Miss Chatterbox
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I did look cool in my Porsche 911 for those 10 years though! And the Ferrari... and the Larabo...
Baltharzion Snookleplum
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from the article
Newly formed charities, those operated by teams and those which appeared dormant were eliminated from the analysis to focus on established non-profit organizations founded by sports figures.
the table only listed established charities. of course most of them are going to be older. you may have disproved one 10 year old article, but, in the same sense, you didnt prove anything. your guess is as good as mine as far as the integrity of pro athletes goes. donations and foundations do not make people role models in the first place. i dont even know how the conversation got swayed this way other than you bringing up play60 out of nowhere.
the lack of a quantitative table to show the charitable donations of professional athletes does not imply they are all pieces of shit as was the original claim.
Newly formed charities, those operated by teams and those which appeared dormant were eliminated from the analysis to focus on established non-profit organizations founded by sports figures.
the table only listed established charities. of course most of them are going to be older. you may have disproved one 10 year old article, but, in the same sense, you didnt prove anything. your guess is as good as mine as far as the integrity of pro athletes goes. donations and foundations do not make people role models in the first place. i dont even know how the conversation got swayed this way other than you bringing up play60 out of nowhere.
the lack of a quantitative table to show the charitable donations of professional athletes does not imply they are all pieces of shit as was the original claim.