Nabbed at Customs

On 2011-04-08, atec77 wrote:


Yes. I'm sure the local cheese "artisans" are also happy about cheese
import restrictions. In fact, it no doubt help spawn the now thriving
mom/pop cheese industry. Kinda backfired on the big boys. ;)

That's one of the things I'm glad to see. With so much industry going
offshore, small cottage food businesses are thriving. Glad to see it
and support it all I can.


nb
 
On 2011-04-08, Mark Thorson wrote:


I used Kraft as a single example. Another is Real California Cheese,
the mouthpieces for the worst crappiest cheese industry on the
freakin' planet. We're talking the most insipid tasteless
cheese you can even find!

Believe what you like. I go to major sprmkts and see crap US brands
posing as good cheese. What other possible reason to restrict
imports after a century of importing Old World cheese and suffering no
real health issues? Are you so naive? Oh wait!.... it's Mark. Of
course you are! ;)

nb
 
notbob wrote:


I doubt very much that Kraft felt any impact from
nonpasteurized French Brie or Camembert or that
they sell even one less green can due to competition
from genuine parmesano reggiano. That would be
like Ford feeling competition from Lamborghini.
 
"notbob" wrote

Plenty of cheeses are imported, but those from raw milk cannot be. The USDA
knows how to protect us from those many hundred year traditions. I never
had a problem either buying imported locally or bringing it back myself.
For the best Italian, I go to a couple of shops in Providence.
 
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 00:21:16 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


Raw milk cheese are legal to import as long as they are aged 60+ days.
And if you know the right people at the right street corner and give
them the secret handshake, they can let you in the non-descript door
in the back alley where you can get anything you want. And it's
reasonably priced since they didn't have to pay import duties and
whatnot. Roquefort alone is taxed at 300% due to petty political
reasons of Bush Jr. He did it quietly in his last week of office,
along with 100% tax on dozens of other French products. What a pussy.

-sw
 
On 2011-04-09, Ed Pawlowski wrote:


I know. I jes bought some 2-yr old Parmasan from a mom/pop Italian
store. It's good, but I've tasted better. Also ordered some Spanish
Cabrales online. I hope it's worth what I paid for it (yikes!).

nb
 
Victor Sack wrote:

What if you fly from France to Canada? Would they confiscate it?


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On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:37:03 +0100, Janet wrote:


That's news to me and to a lot of people here.

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On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:22:08 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Steve Pope) wrote:

LOLOL! Ooooh-kay, Steve. I'll believe you. Not that I've ever given
an iota of thought in the past to where it comes from, so I wouldn't
have anything to base a disagreement on.

Oooops, sorry merryb. That was the kind of input you hate to see.
Oh, well. Too bad, so sad. Kill me now if you haven't already.

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Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
sf wrote:



I recall hearing about this in the distant past. I think James Herriot
described this in his comical novels, in any case the herds are
innoculated against TB and the incidence now is close to zero. Today
they must be pasteurizing milk for other reasons.

Steve
 
In article , [email protected]
says...

http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/farming/stockcrop/adisease/btb.html

"Tuberculosis (TB) is a serious disease. As 'consumption' it was a major
cause of death in Britain before the invention of antibiotics and it
continues to be a major problem worldwide. The main disease in humans is
caused by Mycobacterium tuberculosis and nowadays only about 1% of TB
cases in humans are caused by Mycobacterium bovis(Bovine Tb) but in the
1930's it is estimated that 2,500 people died from M bovis in the UK each
year. Closely related bacteria cause TB in birds and Leprosy in humans.

Nearly all warm blooded animals are susceptible to M bovis to some degree,
this complicates controls. TB is hard to treat with antibiotics and there
is no satisfactory vaccine for M bovis. Infected cattle are culled and the
whole herd put under restrictions. They are retested frequently until it
is certain that the disease has been eradicated and only then is the herd
allowed to return to normal production.

TB is usually spread by sneezing and coughing. It is also spread in other
bodily fluids. The usual cattle to human route for M bovis infection is
via 'raw', untreated, milk.

M bovis is destroyed by heating. This is why pasteurisation of milk was
introduced and it is pasteurisation that must be credited with the
greatest improvement in human health. "


end quote

Janet
 
In article , [email protected] says...

Nope.

Today

Bovine TB inoculation in cows is far less effective than in TB
vaccination humans (which is a different strain of TB) . Cattle are mostly
kept on grass in the UK (in contact with wildlife) so in some parts of the
country bovine TB is still a constant problem and herds are tested
regularly.

http://animalhealth.defra.gov.uk/managing-disease/notifiable-
disease/bovine-tb/managingtbinyourherd.html

You haven't eradicated it in the USA btw.

Janet
 
On Apr 13, 4:22?am, Janet wrote:

==
And yet stupid people in Canada and the USA want to have access to raw
unpasteurized milk as they think that it is their right to have it as
it is "healthier". When a whole raft of people get raw milk-borne
disease maybe they'll smarten up.
==
 
"sf" ha scritto nel messaggio Janet
wrote:


It used to be known by everyone in the US, but people take things for
granted more now, I think. Bang's disease doesn't ring a bell? That's
bovine TB and it can cripple or kill you.
 
Roy wrote in
news:[email protected]
..com:


That's the excuse. It is actually a matter of countervailing
duties and what not. You'll note that such measures rarely affect
purchases made by large companies.

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The Bible! Because all the works of science cannot equal the
wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every
animal species in the world lived within walking distance of
Noah's house.
 
"Roy" ha scritto nel messaggio
And yet stupid people in Canada and the USA want to have access to raw
unpasteurized milk as they think that it is their right to have it as
it is "healthier". When a whole raft of people get raw milk-borne disease
maybe they'll smarten up.
==

There are herds, usually small, which are continually tested and whose milk
can be sold raw. My mother's neighbor had such a herd. Costs a lot more,
but if yopu really want it...
 
On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 15:30:38 +0100, Janet wrote:


If I remember right- from 30 years ago- and I'm only familiar with
NY's herd. Milk gets tested at every pickup from the farm. Cows
are tested yearly. When cans were popular, each can was tested. NY
went to all bulk tanks in the late 70s.


I haven't heard of it-- That isn't to say it isn't high somewhere. The
US is a huge area and I'm not plugged into farm or wildlife circles
anymore.

Also many of our dairy cows never come into contact with wildlife.

I'm not saying it is of no concern. It is certainly something we
should be aware of and continue to manage. But 16-40 cows out of a
herd of nearly 10 million, is a pretty small risk. Especially when
it is isolated to a handfull of herds in a couple parts of the
country. [and in those parts, the media is likely playing it up big
time]

If I was drinking unpasteurized milk again, I'd brush up on the signs
of Bovine TB. In the meantime, I'll worry about a plane crashing
into my house while I sleep.

Jim
 
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