New versions are readily available for a merer 20-30 depending who you find. Rather then paying $65.00 for an old version. I agree this stuff is extremely interesting. I can assure you that I don't qualify for either catagory you have mentioned. My site is about the most honest site out there. Take for example our membership. Most iden forums are 20 per year. Ours is 10 for 2 years. So if we were dishonest we would definetly charge at least as much as all the other iden forums! All we are looking for is to try to ease te pain of the site cost, which is still mostly out of pocket. We have lots of free items for regular members and offer many benefits to our subscribers. As far as making fun of others in order to make myself feel better. I have yet to do so, I can not however help the fact that I do have a sense of humor and find things funny. If you are offended by my sense of humor, I offer you now my apology. If I wanted to make myself feel better by disin people online, I would not be here answering questions and offering my help. I also would not be who I am on the other sites I am apart of, I have an open offer of help to all that does not stop. My AIM does not stay quite long enough for me to type this reply. Questions don't stop coming. So if that was my goal as you suggest then I would not be wasting my time helping people learn about their phones and making them their own. I would be to busy making fun of them.