Must See : The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe

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Just seen the film and I thought it was really good, would recommend it to anyone and I'm considering going to see it again on Sunday (sad I know) lol - :D :D
 
I think Philip Pullman has got a FAR bigger agenda than CS Lewis ever had. Pot... kettle.... black...

Much of what he has said re. Narnia is absurd at best. There was a good study done on this in the US Chronicle of Higher Education, from what I can work out kind of a Times Ed Supplement but as a periodical. It's certainly NOT a right wing / Christian mouthpiece, and it examines Pullman's claims. And pretty well rips them to pieces.
 
Super film, but I think that the actor of Peter is a real let down.

I've never known such a terrible actor be so in love with himself.

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yeah i know - he was a let down, his brother was a lot better - how good was the little girl - she was really good..

never liked the bit at the very end where they were like in there 30s/40s :s

since its a chronicle - i'm guessing we're getting another one next year ???
 
Mmh, you might well be right there.
Thanks for that link - I'll read it on the way to work tomorrow. I don't think, though, that anything will be proved one way or the other. What I find interesting, personally, about the rebuttals of Pulman's claims by some Christian groups is that the very blindness that he accuses them of, the rigidity of the faith-based perspective, always lets down the argument eventually.
But I'm open to fresh discussion, honest :D
 
Perhaps you are right, I'm not sure. I suppose the books mean different things to different people. I always saw him as a symbol of Jesus because he sacrificed himself for the sin of another, and was resurrected. But then in The Magician's Nephew he does come across as God, because he creates Narnia. On thinking about it, I don't think he is a fixed representation of either. I think he generally represents goodness.

Whichever way, I love the books!
 
Ive loved all the Chronicles. Silver chair i think (after lion the witch and ward- obe ;) ) was my favorite. I had the box set when i was younger but it got lost :( , i was looking on EBay but they are going for loaRAB of money at the moment hence the film.
 
Quite. Hope you found the linked article a bit better!

Saw the film itself last night and thought it was great. Or at the very least greatish. After Harry Potter 4 which, having not read the book, was a boarderline incomprehensible mess of a film, the sheer power of a good story well told came through.
 
I read the article. Interesting, but to be honest it wasn't very deep, was it? I mean, it just really listed some examples in the books to refute claims of sexism, racism and 'lack of love' (Christian or otherwise).
On the sexist/racist score Lewis would need to go a long way to beat Enid Blyton.
I don't know. I think I'll need to read all the books again!

Re. Harry Potter: having read the book myself, I did wonder whether it would be comprehensible to those that hadn't. Guess I have the answer now.....
 
Thanks for posting that, it does seem to disprove the idea that the Christian message was just a coincidence.

I do agree with Pulman, though, about the ending to the whole series
where all the children die but it doesn't matter, they are all in heaven/Narnia forever now
it does seem pretty sick.
 
I think I'll have to spoilerise this whole post!

Whatever your personal views, the vast majority of people on this planet believe either in an afterlife, or some form of continuing spirit. To say such an ending is sick makes the assumption that - as a fact - there can be no afterlife. Never mind the barking mad American Intelligent Design idiots, proper scientists are about a billion miles from making this conclusion. We just don't know. [BTW, if you want to read more on this, try an excellent anthology called Quantum Questions which is the collected writings of the 20th century's greatest theoretical physicists, including Einstein, on this subject.]

Given that we don't know, what on Earth is wrong with fiction exploring this possibility? Personally, fundamentalist Athiesm I find as offensive as fundamentalist Christianity, Islam or anything else...
 
Just been to see this film, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I've read the book, seen the TV series and seen it performed on stage - so I think a film is kinda the last medium I could see it in :D

I think they were faithful to the book - its not a very long story, so there is less chance of bits being missed out - and it was great that they went into the action almost straight away :D

I also think that Tilda Swinton was an excellent choice for the White Witch. James McAvoy was good as Mr Tumnus but I always imagined him as being a bit older

The children were fairly good too - especially the little girl who played Lucy and the boy who played Edmund. I did feel however (like some others) that the boy who played Peter was a bit of a let down and also that the girl who played Susan was a tad annoying at times. I read the book last year and cant remember her being that annoying in the book! :D

I'm just gonna spoiler this bit - probably me being over cautious but I'd rather be that than not :D

Am I alone in thinking that Jim Broadbent was a bit pointless as The Professor and that Liam Neeson was a terrible choice for Aslan? his accent and whole persona were completely wrong IMO

Only thing that spoiled the film? Blumming kiRAB on the front row taking it in turns to cry! :mad:
 
Indeed - that's the very thing. You don't have to look very hard to see that Pullman's whinging is full of BS. Just as you say, nothing deep about it at all!

Funnily enough I am re-reading the series now. Sexism I can't really see, especially written in 1955. Lucy is as proactive a character as any - you don't really have to dig much deeper than that. The lack-of-love charge is just plain mad.

Where I AM uncomfortable is racism. I think this is the strongest case against the series. The examples in the article are points well made, but not enough for me. He may as well call the Calormenes "Dirty filthy Arabs". I hope the makers find an elegent way to ditch this element for Horse And His Boy, cos it's an excellent story otherwise. One can only say that the 1950s were less enlightened times...

Incidentally, in reading order, A Horse And His Boy is the next story after LWW, not Prince Caspian.
 
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